How to find Fuel consumption for 10 MW Gas Generator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the calculations and formulas needed to determine fuel consumption for a 10 MW gas generator, specifically in the context of a biogas project. Participants explore various types of generators and their efficiency, as well as the implications of using biogas as a fuel source.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest looking at commercial project specifications, such as those from Capstone Microturbines, to find relevant data.
  • There is a discussion about the vagueness of the term "generator," with some participants asking for clarification on whether it refers to a specific type of generator or an entire power generating plant.
  • Participants note that the fuel efficiency varies significantly between different types of power plants (steam, diesel, gas turbine), which affects the amount of biogas needed to generate 10 MW of power.
  • Some responses emphasize the importance of selecting the appropriate generator or boiler based on specific requirements, such as fuel type and cooling system.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding relevant information online about designing a biogas plant and requests links to useful resources.
  • Another participant provides links to external resources related to biogas technology and power generation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the calculations needed for fuel consumption, and multiple competing views regarding the types of generators and their efficiencies remain. The discussion is characterized by a lack of clarity and varying interpretations of the initial request.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the types of generators and their efficiencies. The conversation also reflects a dependence on definitions of terms like "generator" and "parameters," which are not uniformly understood among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in renewable energy projects, particularly those focused on biogas technology and power generation systems.

Goldisach
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Hi

I am working on Bio Gas Project and I want to know calculations/Formulas to find out elements of Generator.

I am MBA students and i have to submit my project report with to start up new firm on renewable energy.

Please submit can share your knowledge to help me.
 
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You should Google spec sheets for existing commercial projects. Try Capstone Microturbines for a start.

Often though, you look at the issue from the other direction: what is the fuel source and how much is available?
 
Goldisach said:
Hi

I am working on Bio Gas Project and I want to know calculations/Formulas to find out elements of Generator.

I am MBA students and i have to submit my project report with to start up new firm on renewable energy.

Please submit can share your knowledge to help me.
This is a very vague request. The term "generator" has multiple technical meanings. What kind of generator? Or is it an entire power generating plant which is fueled by biogas? If you use the biogas to run a diesel or gas turbine, you'll get a range of fuel consumption figures. Same if the biogas is burned in a boiler to make steam to generate power.
 
Goldisach said:
Hi

I am working on Bio Gas Project and I want to know calculations/Formulas to find out elements of Generator.

I am MBA students and i have to submit my project report with to start up new firm on renewable energy.

Please submit can share your knowledge to help me.

So you are showing no effort and asking us to do your homework for you?
 
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SteamKing said:
This is a very vague request. The term "generator" has multiple technical meanings. What kind of generator? Or is it an entire power generating plant which is fueled by biogas? If you use the biogas to run a diesel or gas turbine, you'll get a range of fuel consumption figures. Same if the biogas is burned in a boiler to make steam to generate power.

Yes,Its an Power Generating plan which will function on Bio gas as fuel.
That means you want to say all parameters will be same for Disel or gas turbine and steam to generate power using Bio gas
 
Goldisach said:
Yes,Its an Power Generating plan which will function on Bio gas as fuel.
That means you want to say all parameters will be same for Disel or gas turbine and steam to generate power using Bio gas
It's not clear what you mean by the term "parameters" here. All we know for certain is that this plant is intended to generate 10 MW of power.

The fuel efficiency of various types of power plant (steam, diesel, gas turbine) differs quite a bit, so in order to estimate how much biogas you need to generate 10 MW of power, you need to find out what sort of numbers to expect for these different generating options.
 
You need to look at combined cycle alternatives, Google it.
 
you can find the fuel consumption in the data sheet or specs of your generator, the data sheet is available in the manufacturer of your generator.

so the first thing you need to do is to choose first your generator, google biogas generator there's a lot of company manufacturing it like GE, rolls royce, pratt and whitney etc.

there's a lot of genarator in the market, so you choose it based on your requirement like type of fuel, cooling system(water or air cooled), etc. I am talking here about electric generator fueled by biogas/methane.

with regards to steam power plant wherein you use boiler fuled by biogas, the same thing to do, choose your boiler first.

decide what system to go(boiler or generator), there a lot of consideration here to make it more efficient and economical

google "how to design a biogas plant"
 
rickitek said:
you can find the fuel consumption in the data sheet or specs of your generator, the data sheet is available in the manufacturer of your generator.

so the first thing you need to do is to choose first your generator, google biogas generator there's a lot of company manufacturing it like GE, rolls royce, pratt and whitney etc.

there's a lot of genarator in the market, so you choose it based on your requirement like type of fuel, cooling system(water or air cooled), etc. I am talking here about electric generator fueled by biogas/methane.

with regards to steam power plant wherein you use boiler fuled by biogas, the same thing to do, choose your boiler first.

decide what system to go(boiler or generator), there a lot of consideration here to make it more efficient and economical

google "how to design a biogas plant"

Thanks a lot
I tried on Google "How to design a Bio gas Plant". I have not got any relevant information.
If you have any link please share.
Once again thanks for information
 
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SteamKing said:
It's not clear what you mean by the term "parameters" here. All we know for certain is that this plant is intended to generate 10 MW of power.

The fuel efficiency of various types of power plant (steam, diesel, gas turbine) differs quite a bit, so in order to estimate how much biogas you need to generate 10 MW of power, you need to find out what sort of numbers to expect for these different generating options.
Thanks for sharing information
10,000 kwh is Complete unit energy consumption which i estimated.
Now all i have to find how much Bio gas required to generate 10 MW power and to find this i want to know how to find bio gas consumption per hour for any 10 MW generator.
 

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