How to find limit of arithmetic series?

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of an arithmetic series, specifically the series of odd numbers summed up to a certain term, divided by a linear expression as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the properties of arithmetic series and limits in calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the sum of an arithmetic series and how to apply it in the context of limits. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the expression and whether the series converges. Some participants also inquire about the necessity of dividing by the highest power of n when evaluating limits.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications on the arithmetic series and limit evaluation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the expression setup, and some participants have expressed confusion about the convergence of the series. Guidance has been offered regarding the approach to limits, but no consensus has been reached on the overall problem.

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Find the limit of the following series:

lim (n-->infinity) 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + ... (2n-1) / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]




3. From what I kno this is an arithmetic series, meaning I must use that arithmetic series formula. so its (first term + last term / 2 times the number of terms) n^2..

now my teacher did another step, and this is where I am lost:

n^2/n+1 - (2n+1)/n

I can solve it from here but can someone be kind enough to explain the above part to me. (by the way, answer is -3/2)


I also have another question, do i need to divide by highest power of n (in this case) of denominator to all numbers when n approaches infinity? So i need to do that everytime?

Any comments are most appreciated and I thank you for your time :-)
 
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Can you post your question again, with more brackets :( Its hard to tell what you mean.

In any case, [tex]1+3+5...+ n = \left( \frac{n+1}{2}\right)^2[/tex].

And when you have the quotient of polynomials, to find the limit always divide through by the highest power of x.
 
yes okay sorry

[1 + 3 + 5 ...(2n-1)] / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]

so 1 is the first term, and 2n-1 is the last term of the series. I don't know what the other part after the subtraction sign is...

i hope this helped
 
kenvin100 said:
Find the limit of the following series:

lim (n-->infinity) 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + ... (2n-1) / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]




3. From what I kno this is an arithmetic series, meaning I must use that arithmetic series formula. so its (first term + last term / 2 times the number of terms) n^2..

now my teacher did another step, and this is where I am lost:

n^2/n+1 - (2n+1)/n

I can solve it from here but can someone be kind enough to explain the above part to me. (by the way, answer is -3/2)
No, this is not an arithmetic series! An arithmetic series, where the numbers are getting larger and larger, can't possibly converge. Here you might have an arithmetic series divided by something. It is not clear whether you mean
[tex]\frac{1+ 3+ 5+ 7+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ (2n-1)}{(n+1) - \frac{2n+1}{2}}[/tex]
or
[tex]\frac{1+ 3+ 5+ 7+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ (2n-1)}{(n+1)}- \frac{2n+1}{2}[/tex]

Unfortunately, I can't see that either of those converges- and, in fact, what your teacher gives does not converge!

I also have another question, do i need to divide by highest power of n (in this case) of denominator to all numbers when n approaches infinity? So i need to do that everytime?

Any comments are most appreciated and I thank you for your time :-)
Well, you don't NEED to- if you can find some other way to do the limit. But it certainly is usually the easiest way to do such a limit. The obvious point is that it is easier to work with "0" than with infinity! Dividing each term by the highest power puts n into the denominator of each individual fraction- as n goes to infinity, each fraction goes to 0.
 
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ye the whole series is divided by n+1..

edit: nvm i solved it...
 
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the above poster didn't say it, so i will because it just helped me while doing my calculus homework here:

thanks
 
lim (n→∞) 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + ... (2n-1) / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]

first we find arithmetic sum: Sn=n/2*[2a1+(n-1)*d], where d=2, a1=1

lim (n→∞) n/2*[2+(n-1)*2] / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]

lim (n→∞) n/2*[2+2n-2] / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]

lim (n→∞) n(n) / (2n-1) / (n+1) - [(2n+1)/2]

lim (n→∞) n^2/ 2(n+1)-2n+1/2

lim(n→∞)n^2/ 2n+2-2n+1/2

lim(n→∞)n^2/ 2/3

2/0

"infinity" is the result
 

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