How to find out the right DC motor

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate specifications for a DC motor to power a vehicle intended to travel 100 miles at a minimum speed of 55 mph while carrying a total load of 600 kg. Participants seek assistance with calculations related to power, torque, speed, and RPM of the motor shaft, as well as the impact of various forces such as rolling resistance and aerodynamic drag.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to calculate the power, torque, speed, and RPM of the motor needed for their vehicle.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the total power required to move the vehicle at 55 mph, considering factors like aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance, and drivetrain losses, and recommends adding a margin for acceleration.
  • A participant questions the formula for power, proposing that it is calculated as Power = Torque x radian speed, and seeks guidance on starting the calculations, noting the use of a belt drive.
  • A formula for rolling resistance is provided, including variables such as the rolling resistance coefficient, mass of the vehicle, and gravitational force.
  • One participant references a source that estimates approximately 25 HP is needed to maintain 55 mph for a sedan on level ground, suggesting this as a guideline for mechanical power output from the motor.
  • Another participant shares a link to a resource that may assist with the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific calculations or formulas needed, and multiple viewpoints and suggestions are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the starting points for calculations and the specific parameters needed for their scenario, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the relationships between power, torque, and speed.

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Hi guys, I am a bit confuse on how to calculate the power of the motor, the torque and the speed of the motor shaft + how to find out the rpm. Basically, i want to buy a motor which will be able to travel 100miles with a min speed of 55mph and have a total load of the vehicle of 600kg. if someone could please help me with the calculations because I am not sure to start the calculations from. thanks
 
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You would need to figure out the total power it takes to move the car at 55 mph (aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance, drivetrain losses, ...) and to achieve a resonable amount of acceleration. Then you'd probably want a bit of power to spare, perhaps an additional 25%.

DC motors maximum power output occurs at 1/2 their no load (peak) rpm, so you'd need to select a top gear ratio so the motor would be running about 1/2 it's no load rpm at 55 mph or the targeted top speed.
 
so the total power will be Power = Torque x radian speed is that right?? but how do i start the calculation?? it will be a belt drive thou
 
Rolling Resistance: Froll = uroll x M x gravity ,
Where: uroll - is the rolling resistance coefficient. Typical values for the rolling resitance coeffiecient (uroll) range from 0.010 to 0.015
M - is the mass of the vehicle (kg)
gravity - is the force of gravity (9.8 m/s2)

Please what's the formula for the total power it takes to move the car at 55 mph?? thanks
 
This reference should answer your questions. Read the 6-7 pages starting here; its quite clear:
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/withouthotair/cA/page_254.shtml

Generally speaking for the rolling resistance and air drag of a sedan traveling at 55mph you'll need ~25HP (mechanical power output from the motor) to maintain that speed on level grade.
 
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Hi
This might help you a bit:
http://www.micromo.com/n390290/n.html
 
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