How to Find Particle Speed in Different Reference Frames Using Relativity?

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The problem involves a particle moving at a speed of 0.9c in a reference frame S'', which itself is moving at 0.9c relative to another frame S'. Additionally, frame S' is moving at 0.9c relative to frame S. The task is to find the speed of the particle relative to frames S' and S.

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the particle's motion in relation to the different reference frames and question the necessity of finding the speed relative to S'' when it is already provided.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem's setup, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the frames and questioning the clarity of the problem statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of covariant quantities and rapidities.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the reference frames and the phrasing of the problem, suggesting that the question may contain a typo regarding the speeds to be calculated.

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Homework Statement


(Verbatim) A particle moves with speed .9c along the x'' axis of frame S'', which moves with speed .9c in the positive x'-direction relative to frame S'. Frame S' moves with speed .9c, in the positive x-direction, relative to S. a.) Find the speed of the particle relative to S', and b.) S''.


Homework Equations


Relativistic Velocity Transform: $$u'_x= \frac{u_x-v}{1-\frac{vu_x}{c^2}}$$


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My question is more or less just about the interpretation of the question.

The first line, does that mean, the particle's rest frame is S''? Or that the particle is at rest in S'' which is moving at .9c?
 
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It means that the particle is moving in S, S' is moving with respect to S, and S'' is moving with respect to S'. Otherwise there is no point in asking for the speed in S''.
 
No, the question tells you that the particle is moving with 0.9c in reference frame S" and S" is moving with respect to S' with a velocity of 0.9c which in turn moves with speed 0.9c wrt. S. It's not said that any of these systems is the restframe of the particle. Just calculate!

Hint: It's easier to work with covariant quantities. Since all boosts are in the same direction, it's useful to work with rapidities!
 
vanhees71 said:
No, the question tells you that the particle is moving with 0.9c in reference frame S" and S" is moving with respect to S' with a velocity of 0.9c which in turn moves with speed 0.9c wrt. S.
If the particle is moving at the given speed wrt S'', why does the question ask for the particle's speed wrt S''?
 
tms said:
If the particle is moving at the given speed wrt S'', why does the question ask for the particle's speed wrt S''?

That's a typo. They want you calculate the speeds relative to S' and S - not S' and S''. The speed relative to S'' is given.
 

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