How to find the intersection of two vectors

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection of two vector functions represented by parametric equations. The original poster mentions that the vectors are perpendicular and seeks guidance on determining their intersection point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for equal x and y coordinates at the intersection and suggest using different parameters for each vector function. There are attempts to solve for the parameters and questions about the correctness of the approach.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the equations correctly and emphasized the importance of using distinct parameters for each vector. There is ongoing exploration of the equations derived from the vector functions, and participants are sharing their attempts and results without reaching a consensus.

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There is a sense of urgency as the original poster indicates a deadline for the homework. Participants are working through the implications of their equations and the need for careful solving of two equations with two unknowns.

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L1: r(t) = (-5 + 2t)i + (5 + t)j
L2: r(t) = (3 + 4t)i + (4 - 8t)j

I know that they are perfendicular but how do I go about finding the point of intersection?
 
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At any point of intersection, the x-coordinates have to be equal and the y-coordinates have to be equal.
 
Mark44 said:
At any point of intersection, the x-coordinates have to be equal and the y-coordinates have to be equal.

I'm sorry but could you walk me through this step?
 
It would be a good idea to have a different parameter for the second vector function, say s.
L2: r2(s) = (3 + 4s)i + (4 - 8s)j

While we're at it let's give different names to the two functions so we can tell them apart.

For each value of s, r2(s) gives you a different vector. This vector extends from the origin to a point in the plane. What are the coordinates of that point?

Similarly, for each value of t, r1(t) likewise gives you a different vector. This vector extends from the origin to a point in the plane. What are the coordinates of that point?

At any point of intersection the coordinates of the point on L1 have to be equal to the coordinates of the point on L2.
 
Mark44 said:
It would be a good idea to have a different parameter for the second vector function, say s.
L2: r2(s) = (3 + 4s)i + (4 - 8s)j

While we're at it let's give different names to the two functions so we can tell them apart.

For each value of s, r2(s) gives you a different vector. This vector extends from the origin to a point in the plane. What are the coordinates of that point?

Similarly, for each value of t, r1(t) likewise gives you a different vector. This vector extends from the origin to a point in the plane. What are the coordinates of that point?

At any point of intersection the coordinates of the point on L1 have to be equal to the coordinates of the point on L2.

So I've been trying to set the i value of L1 to theat of L2 and likewise for the j value. I can't seem to get the answers though. I solve for the variable (in L1's case "T", correct?).
 
t=-4 for i and t=-1/9 for j
 
Anyone else have any help?
 
Show your work for solving for t and s and we can see where you went astray.
 
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LCKurtz said:
Show your work for solving for t and s and we can see where you went astray.

-5+2t=3+4t

solved for t to equal -4

5+t=4-8t

solved for t to equal -1/9

I'm not really sure if I went about that right but I'm stuck.
 
  • #11
You need to heed Mark44's advice about using different parameters for different curves in the same problem. Use s for one and t for the other and try again.
 
  • #12
LCKurtz, is there a way we could IM?

I set the second set with an "s"

-5+2t = 3+4s

solved for s = -2+(1/2)t

Do I then plug that in for the s in the original to solve?
 
  • #13
Now you are making progress. Remember the j components have to be equal too. So you should get two equations in two unknowns s and t. See why you need different letters?

Once you get s and t figured out you can plug them in their equations to check they are at the same point. I assume you can take it from here.
 
  • #14
Okay, I pluged them back in and solved t to equal (7/2). I'm at a brain block and now do not know what to do with this. Please help. It's due in less than an hour. I feel like I'm right there but just can't get it to click.
 
  • #15
Two equations, two unknowns. Solve them carefully -- I'm not going to do that for you because I know you can do it. I promise you it will work. I've got to hit the sack now.
 

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