What is the arc-length parameterization for a given vector function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the arc-length parameterization for the vector function r(t) = , where t is greater than or equal to 0. Participants are exploring the integral for arc length and the implications of their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the derivative of the vector function and the magnitude of that derivative. There is a focus on the integral for arc length and the confusion surrounding the evaluation of that integral. Some participants question the assertion that the integral equals zero, pointing out that the integrand is positive.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the integral and its implications for the arc-length parameterization. Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the integral, while others are exploring the use of hyperbolic functions in the context of the problem. Multiple interpretations of the steps involved are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential mistakes in integration and the assumptions made during the process. The discussion includes references to specific functions and their properties, indicating a need for clarity on the mathematical steps involved.

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Homework Statement


Find the arc-length parameterization for r(t)=\left< { e }^{ 2t },{ e }^{ -2t },2\sqrt { 2 } t \right> ,t\ge 0

Homework Equations


s(t)=\int { \left| \dot { r } (t) \right| dt }

The Attempt at a Solution


\dot { r } (t)=\left< { 2e }^{ 2t },-2{ e }^{ -2t },2\sqrt { 2 } \right> \\ \left| \dot { r } (t) \right| =\sqrt { 4{ e }^{ 4t }+4{ e }^{ -4t }+8 } \\ =2\sqrt { { e }^{ 4t }+{ e }^{ -4t }+2 } \\ =2\sqrt { { e }^{ 4t }+\frac { 1 }{ { e }^{ 4t } } +2 } \\ =2\sqrt { \frac { { e }^{ 8t }+{ 2e }^{ 4t }+1 }{ { e }^{ 4t } } } =2\sqrt { \frac { \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) }{ { e }^{ 4t } } } \\ =\frac { 2 }{ { e }^{ 2t } } \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) \\ ={ 2e }^{ 2t }+{ 2e }^{ -2t }\\ s(t)-s(0)=\int _{ 0 }^{ t }{ { 2e }^{ 2t }+{ 2e }^{ -2t }dt } =0 It can't equal 0...where did I go wrong?
 
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It looks correct to me until the very last step where you say the integral is zero. The integral is not zero. It couldn't be, because both terms of the integrand are positive.

Note that ##2e^{2t}+2e^{-2t}## is ##2\cosh 2t##. Have a look at the graph of the cosh function and it will be immediately apparent that its definite integral from 0 to ##t## is positive.
 
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andrewkirk said:
It looks correct to me until the very last step where you say the integral is zero. The integral is not zero. It couldn't be, because both terms of the integrand are positive.

Note that ##2e^{2t}+2e^{-2t}## is ##2\cosh 2t##. Have a look at the graph of the cosh function and it will be immediately apparent that its definite integral from 0 to ##t## is positive.
Shoot, I made a mistake in the integration. It should be s(t)=2\int { { e }^{ 2t }+{ e }^{ -2t } } =2\left( \frac { { e }^{ 2t } }{ 2 } -\frac { { e }^{ -2t } }{ 2 } \right). That's obviously not zero.
 
What's the next step? Taking the natural log doesn't seem like it will work out, because I'd be left with { e }^{ 4t }-1 inside the log. s={ e }^{ 2t }-{ e }^{ -2t }=\frac { { e }^{ 4t }-1 }{ { e }^{ 2t } }
 
Sho Kano said:

Homework Statement


Find the arc-length parameterization for r(t)=\left< { e }^{ 2t },{ e }^{ -2t },2\sqrt { 2 } t \right> ,t\ge 0

Homework Equations


s(t)=\int { \left| \dot { r } (t) \right| dt }

The Attempt at a Solution


\dot { r } (t)=\left< { 2e }^{ 2t },-2{ e }^{ -2t },2\sqrt { 2 } \right> \\ \left| \dot { r } (t) \right| =\sqrt { 4{ e }^{ 4t }+4{ e }^{ -4t }+8 } \\ =2\sqrt { { e }^{ 4t }+{ e }^{ -4t }+2 } \\ =2\sqrt { { e }^{ 4t }+\frac { 1 }{ { e }^{ 4t } } +2 } \\ =2\sqrt { \frac { { e }^{ 8t }+{ 2e }^{ 4t }+1 }{ { e }^{ 4t } } } =2\sqrt { \frac { \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) }{ { e }^{ 4t } } } \\ =\frac { 2 }{ { e }^{ 2t } } \left( { e }^{ 4t }+1 \right) \\ ={ 2e }^{ 2t }+{ 2e }^{ -2t }\\ s(t)-s(0)=\int _{ 0 }^{ t }{ { 2e }^{ 2t }+{ 2e }^{ -2t }dt } =0 It can't equal 0...where did I go wrong?

You could also put ##|\dot{r}(t)| = \sqrt{8} \sqrt{1+\cosh(4t)}##.
 
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OK, this problem was a pain
s={ e }^{ 2t }-{ e }^{ -2t }=2sinh(2t)\\ \frac { s }{ 2 } =sinh(2t)\\ arcsinh\left( \frac { s }{ 2 } \right) =2t=ln\left[ \frac { s }{ 2 } +\sqrt { 1+\frac { { s }^{ 2 } }{ 2 } } \right] \\ r(t(s)). So is it unsolvable without using hyperbolic functions?
 

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