How to find the inverse of a function

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the function T(t) = Ts + (98.6 – Ts)e^(-kt). The original poster expresses difficulty in rewriting the function in the form t = g^(-1)(T).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss isolating t on one side of the equation, with suggestions to simplify the expression by substituting U = e^(-kt). There are attempts to manipulate the equation to solve for U and subsequently for t. Questions arise about the steps needed to isolate t and the implications of logarithmic properties.

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The discussion includes various approaches to isolate t, with some participants providing guidance on using logarithms to further manipulate the equation. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the process, and while some participants express confidence in their reasoning, there is no explicit consensus on the final form of the inverse function.

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Participants note the challenges of manipulating the equation and the potential confusion surrounding the properties of logarithms and exponentials. The original poster indicates a significant time investment in understanding the problem, reflecting the complexity of the topic.

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moved into h/w help, so template is missing
T(t) = Ts+(98.6 – Ts)e-kt

rewrite in the form t=g-1(T)

In trying to understand how to find the inverse of this but am having a hard time, please advise.

Thanks,
Kupkake303
 
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This is just a matter of trying to get t by itself on one side of an equality. You initially have: T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s) e^{-kt}. To simplify the expression, let U = e^{-kt}. Then the equation is: T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s) U. So solve for U. Then solve for t in terms of this value of U.
 
stevendaryl said:
This is just a matter of trying to get t by itself on one side of an equality. You initially have: T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s) e^{-kt}. To simplify the expression, let U = e^{-kt}. Then the equation is: T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s) U. So solve for U. Then solve for t in terms of this value of U.
So I would put it as 0=Ts+(98.6-Ts)U ??

Doing that would give me -Ts/(98.6-Ts)=U

Then putting the e-kt back in you get -Ts/(98.6-Ts)=e-kt

So then I would then need to get that by it's self so the t is by itself but I can't remember how to do this. Please advise. Thank you
 
Kupkake303 said:
So I would put it as 0=Ts+(98.6-Ts)U ??

No, T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s)U

So U = (T-T_s)/(98.6 - T_s)
 
stevendaryl said:
No, T = T_s + (98.6 - T_s)U

So U = (T-T_s)/(98.6 - T_s)
Right, because the T wouldn't just disappear.

So next I would change the U back to a e-kt for e-kt=(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

from there would I try to figure out the e-kt ?
 
Kupkake303 said:
Right, because the T wouldn't just disappear.

So next I would change the U back to a e-kt for e-kt=(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

from there would I try to figure out the e-kt ?

You want to take the natural log of both sides of the equation.
 
stevendaryl said:
You want to take the natural log of both sides of the equation.

okay so I would
e-kt=(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

lne-kt=ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

The ln would cancel out the e

-kt=ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

then divide by -k? to get

t=(1/-k)ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)...?

so this would be my answer for finding the inverse ..?
 
Kupkake303 said:
okay so I would
e-kt=(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

lne-kt=ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

The ln would cancel out the e

-kt=ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)

then divide by -k? to get

t=(1/-k)ln(T-Ts)/(98.6-Ts)...?

so this would be my answer for finding the inverse ..?

Yes, except that -ln(A/B) = ln(B/A), so you can get rid of the - sign to get:

t = \frac{1}{k} ln((98.6 - T_s)/(T-T_s))
 
stevendaryl said:
Yes, except that -ln(A/B) = ln(B/A), so you can get rid of the - sign to get:

t = \frac{1}{k} ln((98.6 - T_s)/(T-T_s))

Awesome! Thank you soooo much. I spent about 4-5 hours trying to figure this problem out myself and I wouldn't have gotten through it by myself.
 
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Logarithms are the inverse of the finish of exponentiation, by definition. Hopefully you remember your first lesson about them. Well hopefully they told you that then.
 

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