How to Find y in a Double Slit Experiment Without Intensity Values?

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The discussion revolves around a double slit experiment, specifically focusing on finding the position \( y \) of interference fringes without having the intensity values. The problem involves understanding phase differences and their relation to the observed interference pattern.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between phase difference and intensity, questioning how to derive \( y \) without direct intensity measurements. There is discussion on using given ratios and the implications of using radians versus degrees in calculations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and the importance of using radians for certain equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding intensity ratios and their impact on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the phase difference in radians, as well as the implications of the given intensity ratio \( I/I_0 = 1/2 \). There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the use of degrees versus radians in trigonometric functions.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


(1) Φ = 2π*(dsinθ/λ)
(2) Itotal = I0 cos2(Φ/2)
(3) Itotal = I0 cos2(πdy/λR)

λ = 585 * 10-9 m
R = 0.700 m
d = 0.320 * 10-3 m
y = ?

The Attempt at a Solution



a) I used eqn (1) and divided the total oscillations by a complete oscillation to find the remainder. Which gave 4.59 rad. Which I think is right.

b) However, I am stuck on this question. I don't understand how to find y from not knowing intensity values. Can I work out the total itensity from eqn (2), now that I have the phase angle? Then find y from eqn (3)?

Any help or direction pointing would be appreciated. Somethings not clicking with this sub category of young's double slit.
 

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Hi,
zehkari said:
not knowing intensity values
You have as a given ##I/I_0 = 1/2##, isn't that sufficient ?
 
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Ah, thank you yeah.

So,

Using eqn (3),

y = λ*R*cos-1(sqrt (I/I0)) / π*d

Which with I/I0 = 1/2 , I get 18 mm for y.

If that looks alright, thanks again for your help BvU.
 
When taking the inverse cosine, should your calculator be in degree or radian mode?
 
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TSny said:
When taking the inverse cosine, should your calculator be in degree or radian mode?

Hey,

There are different values for degrees and radian. Radian gives 3.2 * 10-4. Which is more realistic for distance between slits.
I never thought about radian or degree for inverse. I assumed either was ok. Could you explain why you have to use radian here for inverse cosine?

Many thanks.
 
zehkari said:
Could you explain why you have to use radian here for inverse cosine?
Consider equation (1) in your first post. For the case where the path difference dsinθ equals one wavelength λ, the phase difference Φ should be a full cycle. That is, Φ would be 360 degrees or 2π radians. What does equation (1) give in this case? Note that (1) is used to get (3).
 
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From question a) and using eqn (1) I obtained an answer in degrees and then converted to radian. I am assuming then that Φ has to be in radian? Then as eqn (3) is derived from eqn (1), the calculator should be in radian?

Thanks again.
 
zehkari said:
From question a) and using eqn (1) I obtained an answer in degrees and then converted to radian.
Equation (1), as written, gives the angle Φ in radians. If you want equation (1) to give Φ in degrees, you would have to rewrite it with the factor of 2π replaced by 360.
 

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