How to get multiple rec. letters

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around strategies for obtaining multiple recommendation letters for graduate school applications, particularly for students with limited research experience. Participants share their experiences and suggestions regarding the types of recommenders that admissions departments may value, as well as the importance of building relationships with faculty members.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that letters from professors who have taught upper-level or graduate courses can be valuable, even if they are not research advisors.
  • Others emphasize the importance of having at least one letter from a research advisor who can provide detailed insights into the student's capabilities.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of obtaining letters from academic advisers or mentors from summer research experiences, indicating that diverse sources can be beneficial.
  • There are suggestions to engage in activities beyond research, such as volunteering or tutoring, to build relationships with faculty that could lead to recommendation letters.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited research opportunities available at smaller institutions and how this may impact the quality of recommendation letters.
  • Some participants express hope that a variety of experiences, even if not directly related to the intended field of study, can still contribute positively to the application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that multiple sources for recommendation letters can be beneficial, but there is no consensus on the ideal combination of recommenders or the necessity of research experience. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and differing opinions on the importance of various types of letters.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the uncertainty surrounding the expectations of admissions committees regarding recommendation letters, indicating that these expectations may vary by program and institution.

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Hello,

this has been concerning me for a while now. I've seen online many testimonials about how important recommendation letters are for acceptance into a graduate program.

I only have minimal research experience as of now, and I'm currently working at an internship I will likely be doing until I graduate.

Generally, it seems as if one would require 3 letters. If I do research with a professor and make a strong impression with him or her, that could get me a letter. My concern is where do the other letters come from? Where do admissions departments like to see letters from BESIDE research professors?

I'm just concerned because I go to a smaller-end school and my research opportunities are quite limited. No professors at my school are really involved in what I am interested in pursuing in grad school, so I feel like my rec. letters will need to be good enough to outweigh the irrelevance of the research I do.

My main question is how can I get more than one good rec. letter?

Any advice to someone in this situation? I'd be very grateful. Thanks!

-Stan
 
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Do you have two other "seniors" in the group? Do you work together with someone else somewhere else?
Where do admissions departments like to see letters from BESIDE research professors?
I think every lifetime position should be fine - I have just one data point, but it worked for me.
 
Thanks for responding!

I did work last Fall with a professor and a classmate of mine, but started at my internship in the Spring and was left without time to continue that research (financial decision).

I'm hoping to work with a math professor at some point this year, and there's one physics professor in particular I wanted to discuss the subject with, but I have yet to start.

I just hope that having a smattering of research here and there will look good, and I also think doing multiple bouts of research could get me my letters. I'm just trying to figure out how it would be possible to get multiple letters while only doing research with one professor, you know?

And your experience is very encouraging to hear, thank you
 
I got letters from my academic adviser, my research adviser from my home institution, and one from each of the professors I worked for during summer REUs. Basically, I worked for more than one person over the years.
 
In college, I did research with two professors. I then got my third letter from a professor who taught a upper level / grad class I took.
 
Generally speaking I think most programs will expect at least one reference letter to have detailed experiences with the student - e.g. a mentor on a senior thesis project, a supervisor for a summer or part-time research position - but the others don't need to be so involved. It's good if they are, of course, but letters from professors who have led you through senior undergraduate classes are fine.

I don't think it's worth detouring from a productive and enjoyable research opportunity for the sole purpose of gaining another reference letter. (If on the other hand you want to try something new then go for it - undergrad is a perfect time to do this.)

There are other things that you can do to build relationships, if that's what you're asking. Volunteering to serve on committees, organizing colloquia, teaching labs, tutoring, holding an executive position with your undergraduate physics society, are all examples. None of those really trumps research experience, but they do help you get noticed.
 
I got a letter from the professor I took measure theory with. I had spent a lot of time in his office discussing the material with him and was confident I had made a good impression.
 

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