How to get position operator in momentum space?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the position operator in momentum space using Fourier transformation. Participants explore the relationship between position and momentum representations in quantum mechanics, focusing on mathematical formulations and transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to derive the position operator in momentum space starting from the definition of expectation value in position space.
  • Another participant suggests expressing the wave function in terms of its Fourier transform to facilitate the derivation.
  • A different participant references a relationship between a function and its Fourier transform, indicating how to express the position operator in momentum space.
  • There is a request for clarification on whether the discussion should be conducted using wave functions or if Dirac notation is permissible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the method to derive the position operator in momentum space, and multiple approaches are being discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of derivatives in the context of position and momentum operators, and there are unresolved questions about the appropriate mathematical framework (wave functions vs. Dirac notation).

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those exploring operator representations and Fourier analysis in the context of wave functions and momentum space.

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Hi, I wish to get position operator in momentum space using Fourier transformation, if I simply start from here,

$$ <x>=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dx \Psi^* x \Psi $$

I could do the same with the momentum operator, because I had a derivative acting on |psi there, but in this case, How may I get the ih d/dp thing for the position operator, please give some hint
 
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Well, since you only wanted a hint...

Express ##\Psi(x)## in terms of its Fourier transform ##\tilde\Psi(p)## .
 
I already did that, I just don't know what to do after that, I don't have any derivative to perform on x or p
 
For a function ##f(x)## and its Fourier transform ##F(k)## (assuming it has one), we have the relation ##f'(x) = FT[ikF(k)]## and the inverse transform ##ikF(k) = FT^{-1}[f'(x)]##. Using this how would you write ##x\psi(x)## in momentum space?
 
azoroth134 said:
I already did that [...]
Heh, then you should show your work. (Asking only vague questions makes it harder for others to help you constructively.)
 
...and do you have to do it with wave functions, or is Dirac notation allowed?
 

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