How to get spectra from a metal?

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The discussion revolves around methods for examining the spectra of metal ores to identify their composition, specifically excluding mass spectrometry. Participants explore various analytical techniques and clarify the ambiguity in the original question regarding the type of spectra being referenced.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the vagueness of the original inquiry, emphasizing that the type of spectrum depends on the analytical method used.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may be seeking a list of analytical techniques rather than a specific method.
  • Several techniques are proposed, including X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy (XPS) and Auger spectroscopy, which are noted for their effectiveness in determining elemental composition.
  • There is a discussion about the need for more information regarding the sample characteristics to provide a more tailored response.

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Participants generally agree that the original question lacks specificity regarding the type of spectroscopy, and multiple views remain on how to interpret the inquiry and the appropriate techniques to suggest.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the term "spectra" can refer to various types of measurements, such as light decomposition, X-ray diffraction, and other spectroscopic methods, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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Don't exactly know where to put this but how would one examine the spectra of a metal ore to find what is in it? That being, not using a mass spectrometre.
 
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This is a very vague question.

The spectra you get depends on how you look/what you are looking for.

I'm assuming you have samples that you want to analyze. Please give more information regarding what form the samples take, their physical size, and what you might be looking for.

Edit: Not as vague as I originally read. Still knowing something about the expected sample chacteristics would be beneficial.
 
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Actually, it IS as vague as you first thought.

"Spectra" is simply the decomposition of some property of the material. You decompose light into its various "colors" when you pass it through a prism. That's a spectrum. But this is not the only type of spectrum. You can get a spectrum out of an X-ray diffraction, a photoemission, an Auger measurement, a neutron scattering, etc.. etc.

Thus, question on how one would examine "the spectra" is vague because the type of spectroscopy being performed was never described.

Zz.
 
Right, but when I reread it, I realized that the guy (I think) just wants a list of analytical techniques that might be used.
 
seycyrus said:
Right, but when I reread it, I realized that the guy (I think) just wants a list of analytical techniques that might be used.

If that's the case, then he/she wants "A spectra".

Do you realize that both you and I have written and thought about it more than what the OP had written?

Zz.
 
Evales said:
Don't exactly know where to put this but how would one examine the spectra of a metal ore to find what is in it? That being, not using a mass spectrometre.
XPS (X-ray photo-electron spectroscopy) works well for this.
It gives information based on the energy levels of the core electron shells, and thus allows determining elemental composition fairly well regardless of ionic / covalent bonds (for example FTIR would not work well for this).

Auger also works well.

I hope that helps.
 

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