How to get the equation for 3D projectile motion?

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The discussion revolves around modeling the trajectory of a tennis ball in a three-dimensional space for a math exploration paper. The original poster is interested in deriving an equation based on initial conditions such as velocity, height, and angles, while excluding factors like spin and air resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to model the tennis ball's trajectory using initial conditions and is seeking equations to represent this motion. Some participants question the exclusion of air resistance and spin, suggesting that these factors are significant for an accurate model.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of simplifying assumptions. There is a request for clarification on the exact problem statement and the academic context, indicating a need for further information to guide the discussion.

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Participants note that the complexity of including additional factors like air resistance and spin may affect the model's accuracy, raising concerns about the original poster's approach to simplification.

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Hey guys, so I'm currently writing a math exploration paper on modelling the optimal tennis serve. I am using Geogebra and I was wondering if you could help me come up with the equation that will help model the trajectory of the tennis ball over time given the following conditions:
1. Initial Velocity
2. Initial Height
3. Initial vertical angle
4. Initial Horizontal angle

I would like to model this on a 3 dimensional plane meaning (x,y,z) this is where i have an issue.
I decided to exclude the spin, drag, and air resistance as any factors involved. The only force acting on the ball after the serve is ag at 9.8m/s^2.
 
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PlasmaRadiator24 said:
Hey guys, so I'm currently writing a math exploration paper on modelling the optimal tennis serve. I am using Geogebra and I was wondering if you could help me come up with the equation that will help model the trajectory of the tennis ball over time given the following conditions:
1. Initial Velocity
2. Initial Height
3. Initial vertical angle
4. Initial Horizontal angle

I would like to model this on a 3 dimensional plane meaning (x,y,z) this is where i have an issue.
I decided to exclude the spin, drag, and air resistance as any factors involved. The only force acting on the ball after the serve is ag at 9.8m/s^2.
Welcome to the PF. I've deleted several cross-posts of yours.

Ignoring air resistance and spin seems to be a fundamental error of simplification. Those are fundamental to a good tennis serve. Can you comment about including those effects?
 
I suppose that it would make my model much more accurate, however what I am worried about is the complexity of finding all the equations relating all these factors. The images below show my initial modelling of the tennis court and now the problem is getting the equations to move the ball according to the factors above to model the balls's trajection.
 

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What class is this for? If it's for anything beyond a non-calculus first physics clsss, it would seem that air resistance and the effects of spin would be key.

Part of the Homework Help Template that you deleted asks for the exact problem statement in full. Can you please provide that, and say which uni class this problem is for?
 

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