How to know if there is an inverse or direct relation

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a relationship between variables is direct or inverse, particularly in the context of a power law represented by the equations log(y) = mlog(x) + log(k) and y = kxm. Participants are analyzing data points and slopes from graphs to explore this relationship.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to calculate the slope and intercept from graph data to identify the relationship type. Questions arise about the interpretation of the slope in relation to direct versus inverse proportionality.

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Some participants have provided insights on the nature of the function and its representation on different types of graphs. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly interpret the relationship based on the calculated values and graph characteristics.

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Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of direct and inverse relationships, and there is mention of confusion regarding the transition between log-log graphs and normal graphs. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


log(y) = mlog(x)+log(k)
y=kxm

The Attempt at a Solution


Determine the exponent m and coefficient k of the power law that best fits your data. Is the acceleration directly or inversely proportional?

Taking some points on the graph to get the slope
(0.78 - 0) / (2.28 - 1.52) = 1.026315789 = slope
finding the y intercept
y = mx + b
b = -mx + y
when y is 0 x is 1.52 so
b = -1.026315789*1.52 = -1.559999999

Now to the question
k = 10-1.559999999 = 0.02754228
m = 101.026315789 = 10.6246783
function is now
0.02754228*x10.6246783]

This looks like an exponential function. So on the log log graph it looks linear and on the normal graph it looks exponential. I am unsure how to determine if that is inversely or directly proportional. I am thinking inversely.
 

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Google is your friend on this one, it has over 1 000 000 answers for directly and inversely proportional.
After all, part of learning is learning to find things. :smile:
 
isukatphysics69 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


log(y) = mlog(x)+log(k)
y=kxm

The Attempt at a Solution


Determine the exponent m and coefficient k of the power law that best fits your data. Is the acceleration directly or inversely proportional?

Taking some points on the graph to get the slope
(0.78 - 0) / (2.28 - 1.52) = 1.026315789 = slope
finding the y intercept
y = mx + b
b = -mx + y
when y is 0 x is 1.52 so
b = -1.026315789*1.52 = -1.559999999

Now to the question
k = 10-1.559999999 = 0.02754228
m = 101.026315789 = 10.6246783 wrong.
function is now
0.02754228*x10.6246783]

This looks like an exponential function. So on the log log graph it looks linear and on the normal graph it looks exponential. I am unsure how to determine if that is inversely or directly proportional. I am thinking inversely.
You denoted the slope by m, and calculated it as m=1.026. The original function is a=k*xm. This is not an exponential function.
 
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You denoted the slope by m, and calculated it as m=1.026. The original function is a=k*xm. This is not an exponential function.
Ok i think i see, the slope of the log log graph is actually the power of the "normal" graph
 
0.02754228*x1.026315789]
Graphing this give a straight line. So is it correct to say that direct proportionality will be determined by linear growth in both log log graph and "normal" graph

Thinking about this i don't think so, there may be graphs where there are curves but an underlying power law relation.
 
Wow i am a complete moron. i have figured out this lab report. It has nothing to do with transitioning from log graph to normal graph it is just a matter direct (multiplication) or inverse (division) relationships. i was thinking there is some kind of relation between log log graphs and normal graphs that will determine inverse or direct idk what on Earth i was thinking wow
like once you convert graphs there will be a way to tell a certain relationship idk where i got this idea in my head
 

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