Finding Proportional Relationships using Log-Log Graphs

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The discussion revolves around interpreting a log-log graph with multiple lines to determine the original equations of relationships represented by those lines. The original poster has successfully identified equations for the first four lines but is struggling with the last four, particularly with the slopes and their conversion into the original relationship forms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to convert slopes from a log-log graph into original relationship forms but finds the last four lines challenging. Some participants question the accuracy of the slopes calculated and suggest considering the equations in a different context, such as ordinary x-y plots.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the slopes and their implications for the original equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conversion of the x-y equations back to their original forms, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach for all lines.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a limitation in their mathematical understanding, specifically mentioning a lack of calculus knowledge, which may influence their ability to interpret the results fully.

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Homework Statement


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Given a a log-log graph with 8 lines, you must determine the equation of each line in its original relationship. The slope of the graph (m) gives the power of the original relationship.

Examples:

if m = 2, 3; then y ∝ x^2, x^3, etc.
if m = -1, -2; then y ∝ 1/x, 1/x^2, etc.
if m = 1/2, 1/3; then y ∝ √x, ∛x, etc.
if m = 2/3; then y ∝ ∛x^2The antilog of the y-intercept (b) of the line gives the proportionality constant (or magnitude of the slope) of the original relationship.

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Homework Equations


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y = (antilog b) (X^m) ← To find proportionality constant

m = Δ Log y/ Δ Log x ← To find slope of log-log line

The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to determine the equations of the original relationships for lines #1-4, being:

Line #1: y = 100x
Line #2: y = 100x^2
Line #3: y = x^3
Line #4: y = 10(√x)

However, I am completely stumped on determining the equations for lines 5-8, as the slopes that I calculated are not as easy to convert as the first four lines. So, I found the slopes for lines 5-8, which are:

Line #5: m = -0.9
Line #6: m = -1.5
Line #7: m = -3.8 ≈ -4
Line #8: m = 4/3

I still do not know how to convert these values into the X^m values, as was done for lines 1-4, because these numbers are a little bit wonky.

I also used the antilog for the y-intercept of lines 5-8 to find the magnitude of the proportionality constant:

Line #5: y = 3.2 x 10^5
Line #6: y = 1.0 x 10^5
Line #7: y = 3.2 x 10^4
Line #8: unable to find y-intercept, so I could not determine value of proportionality constant

How do I turn the slopes of the log-log lines into the powers for the original relationships and use that to find the equation of the original line? Also, how do I find the y-intercept of Line #8? An explanation of this would really be helpful.

Note: my understanding in math is at a grade 11 level ( I don't know calculus).

Thanks
 

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Suppose these were ordinary x-y plots rather than log-log plots. Would you be able to determine the equation for each of the straight lines? If so, what is your x-y equation for line 5? (Your present determination of the slope is not correct). What would be your x-y equation for line 8?
 
The x-y equation that I got for Line #5 is y = -0.9 x + 5.48. But I still do not know how to convert this into the original relation form.
 
Stormblessed said:
The x-y equation that I got for Line #5 is y = -0.9 x + 5.48. But I still do not know how to convert this into the original relation form.
Now you write ##\log{Y}=5.48-0.9 \log{X}=5.48+\log{X^{-0.9}}=\log{(3.02\times 10^5)}+\log{X^{-0.9}}=\log{(3.02\times 10^5X^{-0.9})}##
So, $$Y=3.02\times 10^5X^{-0.9}$$

For line 8, if y = mx + b, the x intercept (y = 0) is ##x=-b/m##.
 

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