How to measure a magnetic field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for measuring magnetic fields, particularly in the context of DIY electronics projects involving electromagnets. Participants explore equipment options, measurement techniques, and considerations for accurate readings in varying environments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about measuring the magnetic field of a standard magnet and suggests using equipment to obtain data points in 3D space, along with methods to protect against noise.
  • Another participant recommends using Hall effect sensor ICs, specifically the Melexis MLX91209, and mentions the need for additional circuitry to power and measure its output.
  • A suggestion is made to search for DIY gaussmeter articles to find instructions on building one.
  • One participant shares a recommendation for a book on the topic, expressing hope for its reissue.
  • Concerns are raised about environmental magnetic fields affecting measurements, emphasizing the need to zero the probe before use and consider the angle and direction of the gaussmeter probe.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the concept of a baseline for readings but acknowledges familiarity with noise sources and suggests using magnets with data sheets to verify the accuracy of their measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best methods and considerations for measuring magnetic fields, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on a single approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the influence of environmental factors on magnetic field readings, including the non-uniformity of Earth's magnetic field and the need for calibration based on location and orientation. The discussion includes assumptions about the availability of data sheets for magnets and the complexity of noise in measurements.

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Hi,

I hope that's the correct forum. So I'd like to play around with electronics and magnetism. Meaning: I'd like to build myself a electro magnet and then do some fancy stuff with it. Probably I'll try to recreate this https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/881wgw/ferrofluid_inside_of_a_rotating_magnetic_field/

Question 1:
Assume I have a magnet, like your refrigerator magnet or whatever. I'd like to measure its magnetic field. How would I do that? What equipment would I need and how would I actually measure it? I guess I'd use some equipment to obtain data points in 3D space, right and then just interpolate it, right? How to protect from noise easily?

I'd like to build the equipment myself, so just buy the acutal sensors but without all the other stuff. (Mainly to get into electronics again a bit)

Question 2:
If I buy a magnet, there'll probably be a facts sheet about all that right? If so, is there a good shop where I can buy magnets? I'd prefere a shop that is environmental and fair trade etc. etc.

Thanks :)
 
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Probably the best DIY method would be based on commercially available hall effect sensor ICs. Look at Melexis MLX91209 for example. You would need to provide some simple circuitry to power it and measure it's output.
 
thanks :) That's a start.
 
I bought a copy of this book while its late author was alive.
It is the best treatment i have ever seen.
If you find a copy grab it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006QVDJK/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I really hope somebody buys the rights and re-issues it. Ahem - Dover Press are you listening ?
 
One thing you will need to remember. The Earth (and other structures, items, electronics, anything really) will generate a magnetic field. This will NOT be uniform and could change based on time and your location. Your reading will also change based on the angle and direction of the gaussemeter probe (read about magnetic field lines).

What is the takeway. Zero your probe before use in the orientation you plan on using it at the location you plan on using it. If you are going to try readings at different angles, distances, etc, you may want to get a baseline to know how your environment will affect your probe readings.

I hope I am not overcomplicating this for you
 
jim hardy said:
I bought a copy of this book while its late author was alive.
It is the best treatment i have ever seen.
If you find a copy grab it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006QVDJK/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I really hope somebody buys the rights and re-issues it. Ahem - Dover Press are you listening ?

going to take a look, thanks!

donpacino said:
One thing you will need to remember. The Earth (and other structures, items, electronics, anything really) will generate a magnetic field. This will NOT be uniform and could change based on time and your location. Your reading will also change based on the angle and direction of the gaussemeter probe (read about magnetic field lines).

What is the takeway. Zero your probe before use in the orientation you plan on using it at the location you plan on using it. If you are going to try readings at different angles, distances, etc, you may want to get a baseline to know how your environment will affect your probe readings.

I hope I am not overcomplicating this for you

I don't really get what you mean with baseline but it's not the first data-colelction/experimentation I'm doing, so I'm aware that there are lot's of noise-sources and such. One though I had was to buy magnet where I have a data sheet so I can check how well my gauss meter actually works (if there are such magnets with such data sheets) - could also be a nice way to check for any noise sources. Anyway, I'll just start building it and see what happens then.
 

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