How to motivate students to do proofs?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around strategies for motivating students to engage with mathematical proofs, particularly in the context of a discrete mathematics module for undergraduates. Participants explore various approaches to inspire interest and understanding in proofs, contrasting students' preferences for computational techniques with the deeper insights required for proof-based mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about students' lack of enthusiasm for proofs, suggesting a need for inspiration and resources to foster a love for essential mathematics.
  • Another participant notes that motivation may depend on the type of students and their reasons for studying mathematics, questioning the level of students and courses involved.
  • A participant highlights that students often prioritize good marks over deep understanding, indicating that proofs require a level of engagement that may be lacking.
  • The Abel theorem is mentioned as an example where a proof definitively shows the absence of a formula for quintic polynomials, illustrating the depth of understanding required.
  • Concerns are raised about students' initial difficulties with writing proofs, suggesting that this may contribute to their reluctance.
  • One suggestion involves providing students with incorrect proofs to identify errors, potentially enhancing their understanding of proof structure.
  • Geometric or set-based proofs are proposed as effective starting points for teaching proofs.
  • Participants discuss the value of exploring elegant proofs, such as those for the Pythagorean theorem, to demonstrate the economy of expression in mathematical reasoning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on how to motivate students, with no consensus on a single effective approach. Some emphasize the importance of understanding the audience, while others focus on specific teaching methods or examples.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that students may struggle with proof writing initially, which could affect their motivation. The discussion does not resolve the underlying challenges related to student engagement with proofs.

Who May Find This Useful

Educators and instructors in mathematics, particularly those teaching proof-based courses or discrete mathematics, may find the insights and suggestions relevant to their teaching practices.

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I am finding it difficult to motivate students on why they should how to prove mathematical results. They learn them just to pass examinations but show no real interest or enthusiasm for this.
How can I inspire them to love essential kind of mathematics? They love doing mathematical techniques. Any resources or any answers would really help me.
 
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May depend on the type of students and what or why they are studying.
What level of students? What level of courses?

Very very broadly, at some point in the future, a student (now) may ultimately need to ask himself, which side of this does he want to be on:
"Come, Mr. Tally Man, tally my bananas."
 
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You can find some examples of where commonsense indicates one answer but the proof shows otherwise. The one problem with students is the drive to get good marks trumps thinking more deeply about problems. Proofs like great literary works requires a depth of understanding that students may not want to exert.

The Abel theorem is a good example wher a proof proves once and for all there is no formula like the quadratic formula for quintic polynomials. In essence saying you can stop looking for one.
 
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May depend on the type of students and what or why they are studying.
What level of students? What level of courses?

Very very broadly, at some point in the future, a student (now) may ultimately need to ask himself, which side of this does he want to be on:
"Come, Mr. Tally Man, tally my bananas."
They are undergraduates doing a discrete mathematics module.
 
Are they any good at writing proofs? Most students are horribly bad at it initially, and that may be part of the reason they're reluctant to do it.

One thing you might try is giving them incorrect proofs and asking them to figure out where the errors are.
 
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I think geometric or set based proofs are a good starting point.
 
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With respect to bad proofs, the angle trisection proofs are good where you can’t decide whether two arcs and a line intersect at the same point.

Another idea is to show the economy of expressions in proofs. As an example, there are many ways to prove the Pythagorean theorem some of which are more elegant and profound than others.
 
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