How to Prove ##\bar{h}=-h## for the Given Tensor?

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship ##\bar{h}=-h## for a given tensor defined as ##\bar{h}^{ij}=h^{ij}-1/2\eta^{ij}h##, where ##h= h^i_i##. Participants are exploring the implications of this tensor transformation and the contraction process involved.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss contracting both sides of the equation with ##\eta_{ij}## as a potential approach. Some express uncertainty about their calculations, particularly regarding the results obtained after contraction.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the contraction process and its implications. Some participants have provided guidance on the expected outcomes of the contraction, while others are questioning their own calculations and assumptions. Multiple interpretations of the contraction results are being considered.

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Participants mention the need to adhere to forum rules regarding showing work before receiving help. There is also a reference to the absolute value of the ##n_{ij}## matrix, indicating potential confusion about its relevance to the problem at hand.

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From the tensor, ##\bar{h}^{ij}=h^{ij}-1/2\eta^{ij}h##
Where, h=##h^i_i##,
Prove that ##\bar{h}=-h##,
Where, ##\bar{h}=\bar{h}^i_i##
 
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Your Latex formating will work if you use ## instead of $.
nikhilb1997 said:
From the tensor, ##\bar{h}^{ij}=h^{ij}-1/2\eta^{ij}h##
Where, ##h=h^i_i## ,
Prove that ##\bar{h}=-h##,
Where, ##\bar{h}=\bar{h}^i_i##
 
just contract both sides with ηij.
 
andrien said:
just contract both sides with ηij.
I tried it but I guess I made a mistake since I got h(bar) on the left side and on the right side I got h-1/2h. Please help.
 
nikhilb1997 said:
I tried it but I guess I made a mistake since I got h(bar) on the left side and on the right side I got h-1/2h. Please help.
No,you get on the right side h-(1/2)(4)h=h-2h=-h,can you verify it?
 
andrien said:
No,you get on the right side h-(1/2)(4)h=h-2h=-h,can you verify it?

I had to find the absolute value of the ##n_{ij}## matrix. Is this is where I went wrong. Thank you very much
 
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nikhilb1997 said:
I had to find the absolute value of the ##n_{ij}## matrix. Is this is where I went wrong. Thank you very much
Not necessarily,after contraction you get
ηijηij00η0011η11
22η2233η33,
all others are zero,right.now this is =(1*1)+(-1*-1)+(-1*-1)+(-1*-1)=4,it does not depend on your signature.you can take as well as(-,+,+,+).
 
Thanks a lot andrien.
 

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