How to prove rational number is a commutative field

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The discussion revolves around proving that the rational numbers form a commutative field, focusing on the necessary field axioms and their verification.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of the term "commutative" and explore how to prove commutativity under addition and multiplication. Questions arise about the process of checking field axioms and the specific steps involved in proving each axiom.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the field axioms that need to be checked, while others are attempting to work through specific examples, such as proving the commutativity of addition. There is an ongoing exploration of the axioms without a clear consensus on the overall approach.

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Participants are navigating the requirements of the homework task, including the need to demonstrate various properties of rational numbers as a field, while also questioning the clarity of the definitions involved.

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I was wondering how to prove rational number is a commutative field.

Personally, I didn't think the word "commutative" is necessary, how about others?

Do I simply prove it is commutative under multiplication?
 
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colstat said:
I was wondering how to prove rational number is a commutative field.

Personally, I didn't think the word "commutative" is necessary, how about others?

Do I simply prove it is commutative under multiplication?

You'll need to check the field axioms. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(mathematics)

That is, you need to check

  • Associativity of addition and multiplication
  • Commutativity of addition and multiplication
  • Existence of the additive and multiplicative identities
  • Existence of the additive and multiplicative inverses for each nonzero element
  • Distributivity

So;, which one is troubling you??
 
Hey, micromass. How do I check field axioms?
Do I say a and b belongs to rational numbers and go through the axiom?
 
OK, let me do an example. Let me check commutativity of addition. Take two fraction a/b and c/d. We must prove that

[tex]\frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{d}=\frac{c}{d}+\frac{a}{b}[/tex]

Indeed:

[tex]\frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{d}=\frac{ad+bc}{bd}[/tex]

and

[tex]\frac{c}{d}+\frac{a}{b}=\frac{bc+ad}{db}[/tex]

because addition and multiplications in the integers is commutative, we got that the two right-hand sides above are equal. Thus the left-hand-sides are also equal. Thus addition is commutative.

Can you prove all the other ones?
 
Thanks so much, I think I got it, that was very helpful! :)
 

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