How to Prove the Commutator Relations for Lorentz Lie Algebra?

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The discussion focuses on proving the commutator relations for the Lorentz Lie algebra, specifically the relation [M^{\rho \sigma}, M^{\tau \mu}] = g^{\sigma \tau} M^{\rho \mu} - g^{\sigma \mu} M^{\rho \tau} + g^{\rho \mu} M^{\sigma \tau} - g^{\rho \tau} M^{\sigma \mu}. Participants emphasize that this relation holds for any representation of the Lie algebra, which consists of matrices where the Lie bracket is defined by the commutator. A key insight provided is to avoid fully expanding the commutator using the specific form of M, suggesting a more strategic approach to the algebraic manipulation.

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So the generators of the Lorentz Lie algebra relations obey

[M^{\rho \sigma}, M^{\tau \mu}] = g^{\sigma \tau} M^{\rho \mu} - g^{\sigma \mu} M^{\rho \tau} + g^{\rho \mu} M^{\sigma \tau} - g^{\rho \tau} M^{\sigma \mu}

where (M^{\rho \sigma})^\mu{}_\nu = g^{\rho \mu} \delta^\sigma{}_\nu - g^{\sigma \mu} \delta^\rho{}_\nu

Now the commutator relation above will be satisfied for any representation of the LIe algebra since a representation of a Lie algebra is just a set of matrices such that the Lie bracket is given by the commutator.

So anyways, I was trying to prove this and just got totally bogged down in the algebra:

[M^{\rho \sigma}, M^{\tau \mu}] \\<br /> = (M^{\rho \sigma})^\lambda{}_\kappa ( M^{\tau \mu})^\kappa{}_\lambda - (M^{\tau \mu})^\lambda{}_\kappa (M^{\rho \sigma})^\kappa{}_\lambda \\<br /> =(g^{\rho \lambda} \delta^\sigma{}_\kappa - g^{\sigma \lambda} \delta^\rho{}_\kappa)(g^{\tau \kappa} \delta^\mu{}_\lambda - g^{\mu \kappa} \delta^\tau{}_\lambda) -(g^{\tau \lambda} \delta^\mu{}_\kappa - g^{\mu \lambda} \delta^\tau{}_\kappa)(g^{\rho \kappa} \delta^\sigma{}_\lambda - g^{\sigma \kappa} \delta^\rho{}_\lambda)

but expanding this out isn't going to give me any M terms like I need in the answer. Any ideas where I've messed up?

Thanks.
 
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You shouldn't fully expand the commutator using the particular form of M, but only the first of the M's in the expanded commutator.
 
bigubau said:
You shouldn't fully expand the commutator using the particular form of M, but only the first of the M's in the expanded commutator.

ok. so i get to

g^{\rho \sigma} (M^{\tau \mu})^\sigma{}_\lambda - g^{\sigma \lambda} ( M^{\tau \mu})^\rho{}_\lambda - g^{\tau \lambda} ( M^{\rho \sigma})^\mu{}_\lambda + g^{\mu \lambda} ( M^{\rho \sigma})^\tau{}_\lambda

but don't know how to finish it off...
 

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