How to Prove the Induction Rule for Sum of Cubes?

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The discussion revolves around proving the induction rule for the sum of cubes, specifically the equation 1³ + 2³ + ... + n³ = (1 + 2 + ... + n)². Participants explore the steps involved in mathematical induction, particularly focusing on the base case and the inductive step.

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  • Participants discuss the structure of the proof by induction, questioning how to properly apply the induction hypothesis. There is a focus on how to manipulate the equation to show that the statement holds for n = k + 1 based on its validity for n = k.

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Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for approaching the proof, while others have raised concerns about algebraic manipulations and the clarity of the steps taken. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is an ongoing dialogue about the correct application of the inductive hypothesis.

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Participants note that the problem requires careful handling of algebraic expressions and the use of previously established formulas, indicating that direct application of known results may not be appropriate in this context.

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Prove that [tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ... + n^{3} = (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n)^{2}[/tex]. So for [tex]n =1[/tex] [tex]1^{3} = 1^{2}[/tex]. For [tex]n = k[/tex], [tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ...+ k^{3} = (1+2+3+...+ k )^{2}[/tex]. For [tex]n = k+1[/tex],[tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} +...+ k^{3} + (k+1)^{3} = (1+2+3+..+ (k+1))^{2}[/tex]. So do I then do this:

[tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ... + k^{3} + (k+1)^{3} = (1+2+3+...+ k)^{2} + (k+1)^{3}[/tex] to show that it is equal to [tex]n = k+1[/tex]?

Thanks
 
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courtrigrad said:
Prove that [tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ... + n^{3} = (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n)^{2}[/tex]. So for [tex]n =1[/tex] [tex]1^{3} = 1^{2}[/tex]. For [tex]n = k[/tex], [tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ...+ k^{3} = (1+2+3+...+ k )^{2}[/tex]. For [tex]n = k+1[/tex],[tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} +...+ k^{3} + (k+1)^{3} = (1+2+3+..+ (k+1))^{2}[/tex]. So do I then do this:

[tex]1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ... + k^{3} + (k+1)^{3} = (1+2+3+...+ k)^{2} + (k+1)^{3}[/tex] to show that it is equal to [tex]n = k+1[/tex]?

Thanks
You must use your induction hypothesis, i.e:
[tex]1 ^ 3 + 2 ^ 3 + ... + k ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k) ^ 2[/tex] (1)
To prove that:
[tex]1 ^ 3 + 2 ^ 3 + ... + k ^ 3 + (k + 1) ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k + (k + 1)) ^ 2[/tex]. (2)
i.e if the equation is true for n = k, it also holds when n = k + 1.
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So let's go from what we have:
[tex]1 ^ 3 + 2 ^ 3 + ... + k ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k) ^ 2[/tex]
the LHS of the equation (2) has an extra term (k + 1)3. So let's add (k + 1)3 to both sides of the above equation:
[tex]\Leftrightarrow 1 ^ 3 + 2 ^ 3 + ... + k ^ 3 + (k + 1) ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k) ^ 2 + (k + 1) ^ 3[/tex] (3)
You have to prove that
[tex]1 ^ 3 + 2 ^ 3 + ... + k ^ 3 + (k + 1) ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k + (k + 1)) ^ 2[/tex], right?
Or in other words, you have to prove:
[tex](1 + 2 + ... + k) ^ 2 + (k + 1) ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k + (k + 1)) ^ 2[/tex]
Can you go from here? :)
 
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yes. thank you
 
Hint, an easy way to do it is to use [tex]1 + 2 + ... + k = \frac{1}{2}k(k+1)[/tex]
 
Curious3141 said:
Hint, an easy way to do it is to use [tex]1 + 2 + ... + k = \frac{1}{2}k(k+1)[/tex]

Indeed , and [tex]1^3 + 2^3 + ... + k^3 = (\frac{1}{2}k(k+1))^2[/tex]

But that is what the question is asking us to prove, by induction.
So the direct formulae are not applicable (only the assumed tautology can be used) and VietDao's method is the probably the only straightforward method to do this problem .

Arun
 
How can you show that [tex](-1)^{k+1} (1+2+...+k)k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = (-1)^{k+2}(1+2+...+ k + (k+1))[/tex]?
 
You can sum 1+2+3+...+r so why don't you? You can also divide everything by (-1)^{k+1} to remove any doubts about signs. Of course it looks false: the LHS is (the same as) a poly in k^3 and the RHS in k^2
 
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The original problem was: Prove that [tex]1-4+9-16 + ... + (-1)^{n+1} n^{2} = (-1)^{n+1} (1+2+... + n)[/tex]. For [tex]n =1[/tex] [tex]1 =1[/tex]. For [tex]n = k[/tex], [tex]1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1} k^{2} = (-1)^{k+1} ( 1+2+...+n)[/tex]. For [tex]n = k+1[/tex], [tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = (-1)^{k+2}(1+2+...+k+(k+1))[/tex]. So I want to show that: [tex]1-4+9-16+...+ (-1)^{k+1}k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = (-1)^{k+1}(1+2+...+k)+(-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}[/tex] or [tex](-1)^{k+1}(1+2+...+k)k^{2}+(-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = (-1)^{k+2}(1+2+...+ k + (k+1))[/tex]. When I divide through I get: [tex](1+2+...+k)k^{2} - (k+1)^{2} = - (1+2+...+k+(k+1))[/tex] or [tex]\frac{1}{2}k(k+1)k^{2} - (k+1)^{2} = -(\frac{1}{2}(k+1)(k+2))[/tex]

Isn't this correct?
 
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arunbg said:
Indeed , and [tex]1^3 + 2^3 + ... + k^3 = (\frac{1}{2}k(k+1))^2[/tex]

But that is what the question is asking us to prove, by induction.
So the direct formulae are not applicable (only the assumed tautology can be used) and VietDao's method is the probably the only straightforward method to do this problem .

Arun

The question is asking one to prove [tex](1 + 2 + ... + k)^2 = 1^3 + 2^3 + ... + k^3[/tex] not that [tex]1 + 2 + ... + k = \frac{1}{2}k(k+1)[/tex]. It's a pretty safe bet that the latter result can be assumed, if not, proof of that by AP sum or induction is trivial.

And, in fact, VietDao hadn't given an explicit method to prove what needs to be proved viz. [tex](1 + 2 + ... + k) ^ 2 + (k + 1) ^ 3 = (1 + 2 + ... + k + (k + 1)) ^ 2[/tex] He merely stated it at something that needs to be proved, how is up to the individual. I'm merely suggesting a valid way to go about proving that proposition.
 
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Something is wrong in your algebra, and general presentation.

You *cannot* write the thing you wish to prove as if it is true:

[tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = (-1)^{k+2}(1+2+...+k+(k+1))[/tex]

should under no circumstances be the first thing you write down.

I have no idea how you came to the last line from the one immediately preceding it.

Start with:
[tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = \ldots[/tex]and put in something that the inductive hypothesis allows you to do (which is the only valid thing you can do, by the way), namely sum the first k terms using the formula you are assuming and then add the last term on, now rearrange and the answer drops out.
 
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So [tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = 1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1}k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}[/tex]
 
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courtrigrad said:
So [tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = 1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1}k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}[/tex]

Right. Now apply the inductive hypothesis.
 
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[tex]1-4+9-16 + ...+ (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2} = 1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1}k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}= 1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1} k^{2} = (-1)^{k+1}( 1+2+...+n)+(-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}[/tex]
 
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Don't mix up the n with the k (n has no place in the expressions).

There's still something wrong with the algebra. You seem to have dropped a term here :


[tex]1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1}k^{2} + (-1)^{k+2}(k+1)^{2}= 1-4+9-16+...+(-1)^{k+1} k^{2}[/tex]

Anyway, how would you proceed?
 
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got it. thanks
 

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