How to Solve a Natural Log Question for X: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 3e^(x+2) = e^(-x) for the variable x. Participants explore various approaches to manipulating the equation, including the use of natural logarithms and exponential properties. The conversation includes elements of mathematical reasoning and clarification of logarithmic properties.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to proceed after taking the natural logarithm of both sides of the equation.
  • Another participant suggests collecting terms before applying logarithms and asks if the original poster knows how to simplify expressions involving exponentials.
  • A participant confirms that the manipulation of exponentials is correct but emphasizes the need to multiply both sides by e^x to simplify the equation properly.
  • Concerns are raised about the incorrect application of logarithmic properties, specifically regarding the expression ln(3e^(x+2)).
  • A later reply reiterates the original problem and highlights flaws pointed out by others, ultimately proposing a different equation, e^(-2x) = 3e^2, and provides a potential solution involving complex numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to solving the equation, with multiple competing views and corrections presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the manipulation of logarithmic and exponential expressions. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of logarithmic properties and their application in solving the equation.

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I have the problem 3e^(x+2) = e^(-x)

and I need to find X. It's been a while since I've looked at any Calculus 2 stuff so I am not sure on what to do here.

I take the natural log of both sides

LN(3e^(x+2) =LN(e^(-x))= (x+2)ln3e = -xlne

So (x+2)Ln3e= -x

Where do I go from here?
 
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It's easier to collect the terms before you log both sides. Try collecting the exponentials on one side. Do you know, for example, how to simplify e^ae^b ?
 
cristo said:
It's easier to collect the terms before you log both sides. Try collecting the exponentials on one side. Do you know, for example, how to simplify e^ae^b ?

the same was as you would any number x^3 * x^2 = X^5

So e^(x+2) * e^(-x) = (x+2-x) or e^2, correct?
 
yes, e^{x+2}e^{-x}=e^2 However, when manipulating the above equation, you need to multiply both sides by e^{x} in order to cancel the e^{-x} on the RHS
 
Also note that ln(3*e^a) is not a*ln(3e), so unless you just didn't put some brackets around (3e)^(x+2), your current expression on the left-hand-side of your last line is incorrect.
 
CalculusSandwich said:
I have the problem 3e^(x+2) = e^(-x)

and I need to find X. It's been a while since I've looked at any Calculus 2 stuff so I am not sure on what to do here.

I take the natural log of both sides

LN(3e^(x+2) =LN(e^(-x))= (x+2)ln3e = -xlne

So (x+2)Ln3e= -x

Where do I go from here?
You don't go anywhere. Your first step was wrong: ln(3ex+2)= ln 3+ (x+2) not (x+2)ln(3e).

Your final equation is ln(3)+ x+2= -x. Would you know how to solve
A+ x+ B= -x for constants A and B?
 
CalculusSandwich said:
I have the problem 3e^(x+2) = e^(-x)

and I need to find X. It's been a while since I've looked at any Calculus 2 stuff so I am not sure on what to do here.

I take the natural log of both sides

LN(3e^(x+2) =LN(e^(-x))= (x+2)ln3e = -xlne

So (x+2)Ln3e= -x

Where do I go from here?

Others pointed out flaws, i just want to be sure that you can solve

e^{-2x}=3e^{2}

Daniel.

P.S. I get x=-\frac{1}{2}\ln 3 -1 + ik\pi \ , \ k\in\mathbb{Z}
 

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