How to Solve Differential Equations with Wolfram Alpha?

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The discussion revolves around solving ordinary differential equations (ODEs) using Wolfram Alpha, specifically focusing on a particular equation involving both exact and non-exact forms. Participants explore the capabilities of Wolfram Alpha in handling such equations and the nuances of inputting them correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use Wolfram Alpha for solving a specific ODE but encounters issues with the input format. Other participants share their experiences with Wolfram Alpha, noting its flexibility with notation. Questions arise regarding how to obtain implicit solutions and the appropriateness of disclosing the use of such tools to instructors.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various approaches to using Wolfram Alpha effectively. Some guidance on input format has been provided, and there are ongoing inquiries about the implications of using the tool for homework. Multiple perspectives on the use of technology in learning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints related to homework solutions being limited to even-numbered problems, which influences their reliance on Wolfram Alpha for additional assistance.

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Homework Statement

i can solve them myself, but sometimes I am just lazy.

How do you make Wolframalpha solve these exact, non-exact, other ODEs?

Ex.

[tex]2y^2 + 2y + 4x^2 + (2xy + x)y' = 0[/tex]

I tried using

DSolve[{(2*y[x]^2 + 2y[x] + 4x^2) + (2xy[x] + x)y'[x] = 0 }, y[x], x]

Not working?Problem

Solve [tex]2y^2 + 2y + 4x^2 + (2xy + x)y' = 0[/tex]

Work

[tex]\frac{\partial }{\partial y}(2y^2 + 2y + 4x^2) = 4y + 2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial }{\partial x}(2xy + x) = 2y + 1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{4y+2-2y - 1}{2xy + x} = \frac{2y+1}{x(2y+1)} = \frac{1}{x}[/tex]

Then clearly the integrating factor is [tex]\mu (x) = x[/tex]

Now my question is, what is the solution that is lost? Is it y = -1/2? Because of [tex]\frac{2y+1}{x(2y+1)}[/tex]?
 
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The good thing about wolfram|alpha is that you don't need to use correct notation. I just typed in "solve 2y^2+2y+4x^2+(2xy+x)dy/dx=0" and it worked.
 
How do you make it show your solutions implicity?
 
Do you tell your teacher that you use Wolfram alpha to solve homework problems?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Do you tell your teacher that you use Wolfram alpha to solve homework problems?

No self-studying right now, but I use it for problems that I don't have the solutions to. The instructor manual I got for some reason only has even solutions.

That's why I am using computers to replace them now lol
 

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