How to Solve Lim x->0+ sqrt(x)/(1-cos(x))?

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit as x approaches 0 from the positive side for the expression sqrt(x)/(1-cos(x)). Participants are exploring the implications of applying L'Hôpital's rule and the behavior of the limit in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hôpital's rule and the resulting limit, questioning whether the limit truly exists or if it diverges to infinity. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of limits and the conditions under which they are considered to exist.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the limit's existence being explored. Some participants express skepticism about the limit approaching infinity, while others clarify that this indicates the limit does not exist in the traditional sense. There is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the limit's behavior.

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Participants are grappling with definitions of limits and the application of L'Hôpital's rule, noting that the original problem may have been misinterpreted or miswritten. The discussion reflects a mix of mathematical reasoning and conceptual questioning regarding the nature of limits approaching infinity.

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How do you find the limit to:

Lim
x->0+ sqrtx/(1-cosx)

I use the L'Hopital rule and i get

lim
x->0+ 1/(2sqrtx*sinx)

and I can't get anywhere after this. I even tried multiplying by sqrtx/sqrtx to get rid of the sqrtx at the beginning, but it still doesn't work. Please help, thanks.
 
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[tex]\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x} \sin x} = \infty[/tex]
 
devious_ said:
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x} \sin x} = \infty[/tex]

I take it as, there's no solution to this problem. Either I'm reading the question wrong, or the prof wrote the question wrong. This is because for any other problems in this exercise, the limit did exist, so I'm sceptical as to whether the answer is infinity.
 
L'hopital's rule works perfectly well. The second limit you got,
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}sin(x)}[/tex]
does not exist (it goes to infinity) so the original limit,
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+}\frac{\sqrt{x}}{1-cos(x)}[/tex]
does not exist.
 
Just plug in really small numbers (to the L'Hopital's), and you get 1/(really small) which would be really big, and as the numbers got smaller the answer would approach infinity.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
L'hopital's rule works perfectly well. The second limit you got,
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}sin(x)}[/tex]
does not exist (it goes to infinity) so the original limit,
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0^+}\frac{\sqrt{x}}{1-cos(x)}[/tex]
does not exist.

Why doesn't it exist if it goes to infinity? Anyway, even if the l'Hospitalled limit didn't exist, I thought there would be nothing I could say about the original limit. The existence of limit

[tex] \frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}[/tex]

is precondition for l'Hospital rule as far as we've been told in school.
 
twoflower said:
Why doesn't it exist if it goes to infinity?

Often (definitions do vary) saying a limit exists means it converges to a finite value. Saying a limit is infinity, or writing lim=+inf, is still saying the limit does not exist, but is giving more information on how it's not existing.

twoflower said:
Anyway, even if the l'Hospitalled limit didn't exist, I thought there would be nothing I could say about the original limit.

If the limit is not existing in the "diverging to +infinity" (or -infinity) sense, then l'hospital's still gives information.
 
shmoe said:
Often (definitions do vary) saying a limit exists means it converges to a finite value. Saying a limit is infinity, or writing lim=+inf, is still saying the limit does not exist, but is giving more information on how it's not existing.

Yes, probably it's a matter of definition, for example we had defined it as follows:

[tex] \mbox{We say that }f\mbox{ has in point }a \in \mathbb{R}^*\mbox{ limit }A \in \mathbb{R}^*\mbox{ if...}[/tex]
 

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