How to Start Learning Physics and Math from Scratch?

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The discussion centers around how to begin learning physics and mathematics from a foundational level. Participants share resources, suggest approaches, and clarify what is meant by starting "from scratch," covering topics from pre-algebra to calculus and introductory physics concepts.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to learn physics and mathematics from scratch and requests recommendations for books and online courses.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of understanding what "from scratch" entails, questioning whether it includes basic literacy skills or just foundational knowledge in physics and math.
  • Some suggest that the learner should identify their current knowledge level to receive appropriate recommendations.
  • Resources such as Khan Academy and OpenStax are mentioned as potential starting points for learning mathematical concepts and physics.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of a solid mathematical foundation, including trigonometry and calculus, before delving into more complex physics topics.
  • Participants note that while one can start learning classical physics with basic math skills, a broader mathematical background is required for advanced topics like string theory.
  • Some participants recommend checking specific educational resources, such as the RICE University site for free downloadable textbooks.
  • There is a mention of the importance of practical experience through laboratory exercises and demonstrations in addition to theoretical learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a foundational understanding of mathematics before tackling physics, but there is no consensus on specific resources or the exact approach to take. Multiple viewpoints on how to start learning and what resources to use remain present.

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Some limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of what constitutes "starting from scratch," the potential lack of clarity regarding the learner's current knowledge, and the absence of consensus on the best resources for beginners.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals looking to start learning physics and mathematics at a foundational level, particularly those seeking guidance on resources and approaches to self-study.

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I want to listen physics from scratch. Suggest books and online courses for me.I also want to learn from pre algebra to calculus.Help me.
 
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Hello @Neeleshatom , :welcome: !

Does scratch mean you have to learn reading and writing ? No. What does it mean ? Makes a difference.
Here at PF we value initiative:
Go find a book at the level that suits you and start doing the exercises.
We can't recommend anything if you don't tell us more about whawt you do know
 
BvU said:
Hello @Neeleshatom , :welcome: !

Does scratch mean you have to learn reading and writing ? No. What does it mean ? Makes a difference.
Here at PF we value initiative:
Go find a book at the level that suits you and start doing the exercises.
We can't recommend anything if you don't tell us more about whawt you do know
Yes scratch means learning the language of physics.I am learning in 9 th grade.
 
BvU said:
Hello @Neeleshatom , :welcome: !

Does scratch mean you have to learn reading and writing ? No. What does it mean ? Makes a difference.
Here at PF we value initiative:
Go find a book at the level that suits you and start doing the exercises.
We can't recommend anything if you don't tell us more about whawt you do know
Just what they teach for kids
 
That helps a bit. My compliments for this curiosity ! (I was like that long ago when there were only books).
And have you outgrown the sites you get when googling physics for kids ?

If so, google college physics books
 
Follow @PeroK's advice:
PeroK said:
You must have some starting point, especially for the maths. Do you know high-school maths?

Perhaps the first place to look is the Khan academy:

https://www.khanacademy.org/
 
Neeleshatom said:
Yes scratch means learning the language of physics.I am learning in 9 th grade.
Yes, there is a little disappointment built in here. It is the math.
PeroK said:
You must have some starting point, especially for the maths. Do you know high-school maths?

Perhaps the first place to look is the Khan academy:

https://www.khanacademy.org/
It will work to look up mathematical concepts, like e.g. a gradient. But only for a while. You won't miss both, physics and mathematics, if you jump back and forth. So before physics takes place, you will need a basis in mathematics, e.g. trigonometry, differential and integral calculus. However, from scratch also implies a lot of classical results: mechanics, optics, basic electrodynamics and some technical content from engineering. All those can be learned with basic mathematical skills - at least to some extent. What later reads as ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{E}=-\dfrac{\partial\vec{B}}{\partial t}## started as ##F=I\cdot s \cdot B\cdot \sin \alpha##. What reads as ##\dfrac{d}{dt}\dfrac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_i}}=0## started as ##\dfrac{\Delta p}{\Delta t} \stackrel{t \to 0}{\longrightarrow} F##. What lurks behind ##\ddot{x}+2\delta \dot{x} +\omega^2 x=0## is in the end simply a sine curve. And what becomes ##W=\int F\,ds## starts with ##W=F\cdot s##.

So you don't have to learn all the mathematics first, but at some time you will need to learn it. The easy formulas are only valid in special cases. Nevertheless, you can start with classical physics at high school level. But you cannot start at a certain mathematical or physical point to learn string theory. For that, you need a broad basis. To learn what friction is, you don't.
 
fresh_42 said:
Yes, there is a little disappointment built in here. It is the math.

It will work to look up mathematical concepts, like e.g. a gradient. But only for a while. You won't miss both, physics and mathematics, if you jump back and forth. So before physics takes place, you will need a basis in mathematics, e.g. trigonometry, differential and integral calculus. However, from scratch also implies a lot of classical results: mechanics, optics, basic electrodynamics and some technical content from engineering. All those can be learned with basic mathematical skills - at least to some extent. What later reads as ##\vec{\nabla}\times \vec{E}=-\dfrac{\partial\vec{B}}{\partial t}## started as ##F=I\cdot s \cdot B\cdot \sin \alpha##. What reads as ##\dfrac{d}{dt}\dfrac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_i}}=0## started as ##\dfrac{\Delta p}{\Delta t} \stackrel{t \to 0}{\longrightarrow} F##. What lurks behind ##\ddot{x}+2\delta \dot{x} +\omega^2 x=0## is in the end simply a sine curve. And what becomes ##W=\int F\,ds## starts with ##W=F\cdot s##.

So you don't have to learn all the mathematics first, but at some time you will need to learn it. The easy formulas are only valid in special cases. Nevertheless, you can start with classical physics at high school level. But you cannot start at a certain mathematical or physical point to learn string theory. For that, you need a broad basis. To learn what friction is, you don't.
Suggest some resources please like books
 
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Neeleshatom said:
Suggest some resources please like books
Like someone earlier said, "just what they teach the kids", which may mean, depending on how education is structured in your vicinity, learn "college preparatory Mathematics", and follow the series of science courses available there starting in (your current) Ninth grade at your school.

The "scratch" way that you want might not be what you find, but you should understand that the level of detail in education for Mathematics and for Physics improves in the colleges and universities. Also books are great but books are not everything. You will want to observe demonstrations done by your teachers and professors (if you get so far), and you will need to do laboratory exercises.
 
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Neeleshatom said:
I have just got intros in school
So have a look at the books on the RICE university site. You can download them as pdf and look into it! Just try and find out whether they are o.k. for you, too difficult or too easy. Whatever, it's for free.
 
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fresh_42 said:
So have a look at the books on the RICE university site. You can download them as pdf and look into it! Just try and find out whether they are o.k. for you, too difficult or too easy. Whatever, it's for free.
I have finished kinematics in openstax physics
 
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