How to Tackle Difficult Online Homework Assignments

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the calculation of work done by a force on a particle and the angle between the force and displacement vectors. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically work, force, and vector operations.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the dot product versus the cross product in calculating work and the angle between vectors. There are attempts to clarify definitions and correct numerical values related to the vectors involved. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the angle calculation and the requirements for significant figures.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying definitions and correcting each other's calculations. There is a recognition of potential issues with automated homework checkers, and some participants express frustration with the homework system. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the definitions and calculations involved.

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There is mention of homework constraints, including the requirement for answers to be presented in specific significant figures. The discussion also touches on the challenges posed by online homework systems and the absence of teaching assistants in some undergraduate programs.

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Homework Statement


A force F = (5 i - 1 j) N acts on a particle that undergoes a displacement r = (2 i + j) m.
(a) Find the work done by the force on the particle. (Calculate all numerical answers to three significant figures.)

(b) What is the angle between F and r?

* the problem required us to put our answer in 4 sig figs

Homework Equations


W=F*R
cross product |F||R|cos[tex]\theta[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



part A,
since W=F*R, so I did: 5*2 + 1(-1) = 9.000 (4 sig figs)

Part B,
cross product |F||R|cos[tex]\theta[/tex]
|F|=[tex]\sqrt{26}[/tex]
|R| = [tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex]
9=[tex]\sqrt{26}[/tex][tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex]cos[tex]\theta[/tex]
[tex]\theta[/tex]=cos-1(9/([tex]\sqrt{26}[/tex][tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex])) = 37.87 degreesMy homework website tells me its wrong, what did I do wrong then?
 
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check your definitions again...

define [and distinguish]: cross product, dot product
define: work
 
That's what I get. But i) it's the dot product, not the cross product and ii) the length of the second vector is sqrt(5) not sqrt(3). My question is how did you get the correct angle?
 
oops. I am so sorry
I really meant the dot product...
the angle is still incorrect though
 
mkwok said:
oops. I am so sorry
I really meant the dot product...
the angle is still incorrect though

No, it's not. It's correct. Maybe you are supposed to give it in radians? Maybe sig figs? These automated homework checkers should be destroyed.
 
Dick said:
No, it's not. It's correct. Maybe you are supposed to give it in radians? Maybe sig figs? These automated homework checkers should be destroyed.

Automatic homework checker? Don't they have TAs anymore?

What the hell are they teaching in colleges these days?
 
Bill Foster said:
Automatic homework checker? Don't they have TAs anymore?

What the hell are they teaching in colleges these days?

Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.
 
robphy said:
Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.

You know how they encouraged us to work outside class meeting times when I was in college? They made us turn the homework in, gave us pop quizzes, and/or frequent exams.
 
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Bill Foster said:
You know how they encouraged us to work outside class meeting times when I was in college? They made us turn the homework in, gave us pop quizzes, and/or frequent exams.

Yep... me, too.
But then again... I really really wanted to learn it... possibly unlike the generic student.
 
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robphy said:
Most undergraduate colleges don't have TAs.
Online homework assignments [however imperfect] can encourage students to work outside of class meeting times.
In addition, online homework assignments can be customized and randomized for each student.

True. But they can be pretty difficult to reason with.
 

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