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Hi folks is there anyone who could help me with si02 please
How to Thin Si02 for Automotive Repair
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the thinning of silicon dioxide (SiO2) for the purpose of creating a ceramic coating for automotive applications. Participants explore methods to liquefy and apply SiO2, as well as the safety considerations involved in handling the materials.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- Some participants inquire about the specific application of SiO2, suggesting it may relate to integrated circuits or personal use in automotive coatings.
- One participant describes their goal of creating a ceramic coating for vehicles and mentions having silica dioxide, seeking advice on how to thin it down.
- Another participant asserts that silicon dioxide is a hard mineral with a high melting point, expressing skepticism about liquefying it and suggesting that the material might actually be sodium silicate or sodium metasilicate, also known as "water glass."
- It is proposed that water could be used to thin the material, with a caution about inhaling the dried residue.
- Participants discuss the brittleness of the coating created from the material, comparing it to a finish made from thin window glass.
- There is acknowledgment of safety precautions, including the use of gloves, glasses, and dust masks while handling the materials.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the use of water as a thinning agent, but there is no consensus on the exact nature of the material being used or the best approach to achieve the desired coating.
Contextual Notes
There are assumptions about the identity of the material (whether it is SiO2 or sodium silicate) that remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the potential dangers associated with handling the dried residue without definitive safety protocols established.
Who May Find This Useful
Individuals interested in automotive repair, DIY ceramic coatings, or those exploring the properties and applications of silicon dioxide and its derivatives may find this discussion relevant.
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berkeman
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You want to deposit it as part of making your own integrated circuits?Gaz1974 said:
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phyzguy
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You need to be more specific. What help are you looking for?Gaz1974 said:
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Gaz1974
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Ok I'm looking at making my own and for my own use ceramic coating for my car motorcycle and mtb...so I have a large jar of silica dioxide and so far I have found out how to hopefully liquefy it to a thick liquid, now I am stumped on what to thin it down.. some kind of carrier solvent.
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phyzguy
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Silicon dioxide is quartz - a hard mineral with a melting point of ~1700 C. You will not liquefy it easily. I suspect what you have is sodium silicate or sodium metasilicate, also referred to as "water glass". I think you can thin it with water. You should be careful with it. The dried residue can be very dangerous to inhale.
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jim mcnamara
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You thin it with water - assuming water glass. Consider reading this - especially the uses section - before you waste materials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate
The covering you create is brittle. (automotive repair section) What you are really doing is making a finish out of thin windows glass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate
The covering you create is brittle. (automotive repair section) What you are really doing is making a finish out of thin windows glass.
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Gaz1974
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Thank you phyzguy that is really helpful. I am definitely no chemist but do take health and safety serious, gloves, glasses, quality dust mask and tend to do a bit of research before trying things...quite boring really lolphyzguy said:
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Gaz1974
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Thanks Jim, I thought it may have been some kind of solvent as its supposed to evaporate quite quickly after application n please don't think I'm disputing you at all. I'm extremely grateful for your help.jim mcnamara said:
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