How to truly remove an ant colony

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods of removing ant colonies, particularly through the casting of fire ant nests with molten aluminum. Participants explore the technical aspects of the casting process, the effectiveness of different ant removal methods, and the ethical implications of such actions.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express amazement at the casting process, noting the depth to which aluminum penetrates the ant nest and questioning the temperatures involved.
  • There are discussions about the structural integrity of the ant nest during the casting, with some suggesting that tunnels may collapse under the weight of the aluminum.
  • One participant explains that traditional casting techniques involve using sand molds and suggests that the process of casting ant nests is less demanding than it appears.
  • Alternative methods for killing ants are proposed, such as using a mixture of borax and sugar, which is said to be effective in eliminating entire colonies.
  • Ethical concerns are raised regarding the justification of killing ants for artistic purposes, with some arguing that it is acceptable for pest control but not for art.
  • There is a debate over the definition of "art" and whether the act of casting ant nests can be considered artistic or merely a craft.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement, particularly regarding the ethical implications of killing ants for art versus pest control. The technical aspects of the casting process also generate differing viewpoints, with no consensus reached on the specifics of temperature and structural outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the melting and boiling points of aluminum, but there is uncertainty about the actual temperatures used in the casting process. The discussion also highlights varying perspectives on the acceptability of killing ants, depending on the context.

  • #31
Kidnap the Queen, as without a Queen, the ant empire would fall, like the Romans... Be very careful though, as crimes against the monarchy still carry the death sentence here in the U.K
 
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  • #32
Student100 said:
Yeah I know that, I've been bitten by them. I was trying to be funny, and failed. :frown:

I thought it was funny. "People for the Ethical Treatment of Ants".

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  • #33
chuffmonkey said:
Be very careful though, as crimes against the monarchy still carry the death sentence here in the U.K
Some places there doesn't need to be a crime.

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  • #34
chuffmonkey said:
Kidnap the Queen, as without a Queen, the ant empire would fall, like the Romans... Be very careful though, as crimes against the monarchy still carry the death sentence here in the U.K

Fire ant colonies are usually multi-queen colonies. Queens live for several years creating roughly 9 million new fireants so the Ant Art is doing its part to eliminate the pest in some small way.

http://www.desertmuseum.org/invaders/invaders_fireant.php
 

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