How Were Logarithm Tables Originally Created?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the historical creation of logarithm tables, particularly those developed by John Napier, and the methods used to calculate logarithms by hand. Participants express curiosity about the processes involved in generating these tables and the implications for calculating powers of numbers, especially with irrational or transcendental exponents.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Historical
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how logarithm tables were originally created, suggesting a lack of clarity in educational responses regarding the methods used by mathematicians like John Napier.
  • Another participant provides a limit definition of the natural logarithm and discusses its convergence properties, expressing a preference against using Taylor series for logarithmic functions.
  • A historical perspective is offered, noting that Napier's method for creating logarithm tables was tedious and occurred before the concept of rational exponents was established, highlighting the extensive time he spent compiling his tables.
  • There is a request for clarification on deriving the limit definition of logarithms and how it compares to the common logarithm.
  • One participant observes that the limit definition of the natural logarithm appears to be the inverse of the limit definition of the number e.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express curiosity and share information, but there is no consensus on the specific methods used by Napier or the best approach for calculating logarithms by hand. Multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the historical context and methods may depend on interpretations of mathematical history and definitions, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Ive repeatedly asked people and my teachers how to solve logs by hand, and I've always got the same answer "They used tables and/or taylor series" but when i ask how the tables were made no one seems to know. So i am curious as to how John Napier and other mathematicians at the time found the values for their log tables. Was it just repeated trial and error? Is their some repeated algorithm? (other then those damn taylor series Hahaha)

Also how would i calculate BY HAND: 10^k
if we assume K is irrational and/or trancendental? thanks a ton!
 
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cmcraes said:
Ive repeatedly asked people and my teachers how to solve logs by hand, and I've always got the same answer "They used tables and/or taylor series" but when i ask how the tables were made no one seems to know. So i am curious as to how John Napier and other mathematicians at the time found the values for their log tables. Was it just repeated trial and error? Is their some repeated algorithm? (other then those damn taylor series Hahaha)

Also how would i calculate BY HAND: 10^k
if we assume K is irrational and/or trancendental? thanks a ton!
How do we calculate logarithms? Well, there are various definitions we can use. For convenience, I'll use the natural logarithm as an example.

Values of the principle branch of the natural logarithm are given by
$$ln(x)=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}n(x^{1/n}-1)=2\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(x-1)^{2k+1}}{(2k+1)(x+1)^{2k+1}}=\int_{1}^{x}\frac{dt}{t}$$

I would not use a Taylor series, as the Taylor series for logarithmic functions tend not to converge very nicely.

As for how to calculate ##10^k## for irrational k, consider the following example.

$$10^\pi=10^{3.1415...}=10^{3+.1+.04+.001+.0005+...}=10^3\cdot 10^{.1}\cdot 10^{.04}\cdot 10^{.001}\cdot 10^{.0005}\cdot (...)$$
 
cmcraes said:
Ive repeatedly asked people and my teachers how to solve logs by hand, and I've always got the same answer "They used tables and/or taylor series" but when i ask how the tables were made no one seems to know. So i am curious as to how John Napier and other mathematicians at the time found the values for their log tables.

John Napier created his tables at a time when none of these analytic methods were in common use. His method is extremely tedious and very historically limited (the concept of rational exponents was not even invented yet! Logarithms were one of the key ideas that led to the consistent theory of real number exponents). He spent twenty years compiling his first tables. The method and its subsequent modifications can be found in detail in the first and second chapters of the book "e: The Story of a Number", but you can read his transliterated paper here.
 
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Thanks helped a ton! Could you show me how to derive this formula? Also how does it differ from say, common log? Thanks!
 
Looking over now i see the limit definition makes sense its just the inverse of the limit definition of e correct?
 

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