News How Will Bushco Respond to Military Preparations for Another 9/11-Type Event?

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The military had conducted exercises simulating hijacked planes before 9/11, raising questions about the preparedness of the Bush administration. Despite warnings about potential terrorist attacks, officials claimed they could not have anticipated planes being used as weapons. The discussion highlights the moral dilemma of whether to shoot down hijacked planes to prevent greater casualties, with concerns about the political fallout from such actions. Critics argue that there was a failure to act on intelligence that indicated a high risk of an attack. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities of decision-making in crisis situations and the implications of prior military readiness.
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Adam said:
Early morning, before work, means the least casualties. And don't make the mistake of thinking that's too complex for them. Look at what they did.

"Only" 189, because it could have been as many as 23,000. That is the usual number for that area, I believe.
The first tower was hit at 8:45. Most Americans start work at 8 or 9. The towers were near maximum occupancy.

23,000 could be the occupancy of the pentagon - its a big building. But it also has a big footprint. It would take a few dozen planes to kill a significant percentage of the people in it.

No, guys - the death toll that day was not artifically low. We were, however, lucky (perversely) that the WTC didn't collapse right after impact, otherwise the death toll really would have been tens of thousands.
 
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Not "artificially" low, no. Deliberately low. Maybe not. Just a possibility.

On any given day, the Pentagon houses 25,000 military people. That doe snot include all the civilians.

I had thought most people from the WTC had not yet arrived at work. Do you have any figures on how many were in the buildings but got out prior to the collapse?
 
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Adam said:
I had thought most people from the WTC had not yet arrived at work. Do you have any figures on how many were in the buildings but got out prior to the collapse?
I'm not sure anyone knows how many people were in just prior to the attack. The % occupancy may be surmised from the casualty figures though, as virtually everyone below the level of the crashes got out and virtually everyone above died. One company, Cantor Fitzgerald lost 658 people or roughly 2/3 of the company. I don't know if the office in the WTC was their only office though.HERE is a site that says the occupancy was about 50,000 (not including the surrounding buildings that also collapsed).

So using 2/3 the occupancy at the time of the attack and 50,000 as the total, if the towers had collapsed immediately, there easily could have been 30,000 deaths.
 
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In that case, I'm glad all those people had time to get out.
 
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