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The problem involves determining the electric field at a point above the center of a uniformly charged infinite plane. The charge is distributed uniformly over a large square plane, and the task is to find the electric field at a specific point in the limit as the plane's dimensions approach infinity.

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  • Participants discuss dividing the plane into strips to calculate the electric field contribution from each strip. Some participants suggest using Gauss' law for an infinite sheet, while others express uncertainty about integrating the electric field formula. There are questions about the implications of symmetry in the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using symmetry and Gauss' law, while others are still grappling with the integration method. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Some participants mention a lack of familiarity with Gauss' law and express a preference for using the electric field formula instead. The original poster has attempted to set up the problem but is unsure about summing the electric fields from the strips.

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Homework Statement



Uniform plane of charge. Charge is distributed uniformly over a large square plane of side ##\ell##, as shown in the figure from the uploaded file (see file). The charge per unit area (C/m[itex]^2[/itex]) is [itex]\sigma[/itex]. Determine the electric field at a point ##P## a distance ##z## above the center of the plane, in the limit ##\ell \rightarrow \infty##.

The hint is as followed:

Divide the plane into long narrow strips of width ##dy## and determine the electric field due to each of the strips. Then, sum up the fields due to each strip to get the total field at ##P##.

Homework Equations



##dE = \dfrac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon_0} \dfrac{dQ}{r^2}##

The Attempt at a Solution



Found ##r##, which is ##\sqrt{z^2 + y^2}##.

With trig, I found that

##dE_z = dE\cos(\theta)##
##dE_y = dE\sin(\theta)##

By integration,

##\int dE_y = \int dE\sin(\theta)##
##E_y = 0##

##\int dE_z = \int dE\cos(\theta)##
##E = E_z = \dfrac{\lambda}{4\pi\varepsilon_0} \int \dfrac{\cos(\theta)}{z^2 + y^2} dy##

Since ##y = z\tan(\theta)##, then ##dy = z(\sec(\theta))^2 d\theta##. Since ##\cos(\theta) = \dfrac{z}{\sqrt{z^2 + y^2}}##, then the integrand becomes ##\dfrac{\cos(\theta) d\theta}{z}##. Thus,

##E = \dfrac{\lambda}{4z\pi\varepsilon_0} \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \cos(\theta) d\theta = \dfrac{\lambda}{2z\pi\varepsilon_0}##

That is for one of the strips. I don't know how to sum up the fields.
 

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If the sheet is infinite in its two dimensons then the E field is easily determined by using Gauss' theorem. You don't need to integrate.

If the sheet dimensions are finite that's more difficult.

The problem states that the dimensions are infinite.
 
Since your point of interest is in the center of the plane, just use symmetry. Even for the finite case, it's not difficult. It's difficult when the point is off axis.
 
rude man said:
If the sheet is infinite in its two dimensons then the E field is easily determined by using Gauss' theorem. You don't need to integrate.

If the sheet dimensions are finite that's more difficult.

The problem states that the dimensions are infinite.

I haven't learned Gauss' Law 100% yet. I need to use the electric field formula to work out the problem.
 
NasuSama said:
I haven't learned Gauss' Law 100% yet. I need to use the electric field formula to work out the problem.

Oh, OK. I'll keep tabs on the thread & see how it goes.
 
Note again, this is a fairly straight forward problem; do not over complicate it (thinking too hard only makes matters worse). Use symmetry and your golden.
 

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