Hydrogen Radial Equation: Recursion Relation & Laguerre Polynomials

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The discussion focuses on the translation of the recursion relation for the Hydrogen radial equation into a form that aligns with the definition of Laguerre polynomials, as presented in Griffiths' quantum mechanics textbook. The specific recursion relation discussed is cj+1 = (j + L + 1 - n) / ((j + 1)(j + 2L + 2)) * cj, with coefficients terminating at jmax = n - L - 1. Participants highlight the importance of defining Laguerre polynomials correctly, noting three definitions: differential equation (DE), recursion relation, and Rodrigues' formula, with the DE being the most effective for deriving the recursion relation.

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  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles, particularly the radial equation.
  • Familiarity with Laguerre polynomials and their definitions.
  • Knowledge of recursion relations in mathematical contexts.
  • Experience with differential equations as applied in physics.
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  • Study the derivation of Laguerre polynomials from their differential equation definition.
  • Explore Griffiths' treatment of the radial wavefunction in quantum mechanics.
  • Investigate the manipulation of the \upsilon(ρ) equation into the associated Laguerre ordinary differential equation (ODE).
  • Review the document linked in the discussion for additional insights on the recursion relation.
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Students and educators in quantum mechanics, particularly those studying the Hydrogen atom's radial wavefunction, as well as mathematicians interested in the applications of Laguerre polynomials in physics.

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I'm in the first of 3 courses in quantum mechanics, and we just started chapter 4 of Griffiths. He goes into great detail in most of the solution of the radial equation, except for one part: translating the recursion relation into a form that matches the definition of the Laguerre polynomials. Now I understand the technique that gets all the way to that point, but I have yet to find any derivation that actually shows how that recursion relation is made to match the right form. I spent a while on it but I can't get it quite right. Can anyone show, or point me to a derivation that includes this detail? Thanks.
 
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And what definition of Laguerre's polynomials do you use ?
 
The recursion relation i have is:

cj+1= \frac{j+L+1-n}{(j+1)(j+2L+2)}cj

for principle quantum number n, and orbital quantum number L, where the coefficients terminate after
jmax = n - L - 1

The definition I'm trying to match is the one in Arfken & Weber:

L^{k}_{N} = \sum^{N}_{j=0}\frac{(-1)^j(N + k)!}{j!(N-j)!(k+j)!}x^j

N = jmax = n - L - 1

k = 2L + 1
 
A number of documents on the web follow Griffiths' treatment, and try to add some explanation, especially at this point. The best one I've found is here.

The problem, as dextercioby says, lies in how you define the Laguerre polynomials. There are three ways you can do it: the DE, the recursion relation, and Rodrigues' formula (which is what Griffiths uses in Eqs. 4.87 and 4.88). Any one of these can be tied to the radial wavefunction for the hydrogen atom. The third is the least useful. :frown: and very difficult to derive from the others. The ref I gave above defines them via the DE and derives the recursion relation from that.
 
Wow it is so much easier to manipulate the \upsilon(\rho) equation into the associated Laguerre ODE than to use the recursion relation. Thanks for your help!
 

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