Hydrostatics question - angled triangular gate?

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The discussion revolves around a hydrostatics problem involving an angled triangular gate. Participants are tasked with determining the magnitude of the pressure force acting on the gate, with specific focus on the centroid's depth and the forces involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of the centroid's depth and question the correctness of its value. There are discussions on calculating horizontal and vertical forces, with some suggesting methods involving trigonometry and integration for different shapes of gates.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and methods. Some have provided guidance on the centroid's location and the components of hydrostatic pressure forces. There is an ongoing exploration of discrepancies in calculated forces and methods, particularly regarding curved gates.

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Participants express uncertainty about including the weight of the gate in force calculations and the implications of using different methods for various gate shapes. There are references to textbook answers that do not align with participants' calculations, prompting further inquiry into the derivation of formulas used.

  • #31
So can we conclude that our answer is right? We do have quite logical reasoning.

Well, in the midst of all this discussion, we have completely ignored theBEAST's original question:redface:

By the way theBEAST, I think you are getting a wrong answer because ρghbottomA is actually the force on the water beneath the gate due t hydrostatic pressure. The vertical component of force on the gate is actually that force minus the weight of the water.( See your own diagram at post #3; the vertical component of force on the water is simply mg-Fu)
 
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  • #32
It looks to me that the textbook solution is correct as far as shown. But, if the textbook is claiming that the force ##F_y## is the same as the vertical force on the cylinder, then, yes, the textbook is wrong. The vertical force ##F_V## on the cylinder would be ##F_V = F_y - W## where ##W## is the weight of the water below the cylinder as shown in the figure in the textbook. I'm wondering if the solution in the textbook continues onto another page that was not posted.
 
  • #33
Yes that sounds right. Sorry for the last second edit
 
  • #34
theBEAST said:
So I decided to try the other method I mentioned where you take the magnitude of the Fhorizontal and Fvertical. However, my answer is off by around 3000N (the answer key gives 39000N). Do you guys know what is wrong?

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I think you're off by a factor of 2 in finding the weight of the water. In particular, look at how you found the area of the base of the region of water.
 

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