Hyperbola's asymptote, where's my mistake?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the asymptotes of hyperbolas, specifically the slopes associated with them. Participants are examining the correct formulation of the slope in relation to the parameters \(a\) and \(b\) in the hyperbola's equation.

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  • Participants are exploring the relationship between the parameters \(a\) and \(b\) and their influence on the slope of the asymptote. There is confusion regarding whether the slope should be expressed as \(a/b\) or \(b/a\). Some participants suggest deriving the slope from the hyperbola's general equation, while others reference a method involving conic sections.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the slope of the asymptote, with some participants providing insights into methods for calculating it. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of specific equations and tricks, though there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note the potential confusion arising from varying sources that present different formulations for the slope of the asymptote. There is also a mention of a preference for typed work over images in future posts to facilitate discussion.

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I have tried like 5 times to do this problem ans still don't get the answer I'm supposed to (A). Anybody finds mistake in my work below?
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If I'm not mistaken, it should be ##a/b## and not ##b/a##. so the factor appearing will be ##2/3## and not ##3/2##.
 
Fightfish said:
If I'm not mistaken, it should be ##a/b## and not ##b/a##. so the factor appearing will be ##2/3## and not ##3/2##.
Yeah, I thought about it, and it works out with a/b being the slope of the asymptote. But different sources stick to either a/b and b/a, so it's really confusing which slope is actually correct.
 
Poznerrr said:
Yeah, I thought about it, and it works out with a/b being the slope of the asymptote. But different sources stick to either a/b and b/a, so it's really confusing which slope is actually correct.
The way to remember it is well, to derive it yourself, which isn't very hard. The general equation for a hyperbola is in the form
[tex]\frac{y^2}{a^2} - \frac{x^2}{b^2} = 1[/tex]
In the asymptotic limit, the term ##1## becomes insignificant and so we drop it, leaving
[tex]\frac{y^2}{a^2} = \frac{x^2}{b^2}[/tex]
and so
[tex]y = \pm \frac{a}{b} x[/tex]
 
Given a conic section
[tex]Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0[/tex]
the asymptotes can be calculated by a little trick. Basically, the slope of the asymptote is ##s##, where ##s## is the solution to ##A + Bs + Cs^2=0##.

In your case, this corresponds to the solution of ##4-9s^2=0##. So we get ##s = 2/3## or ##s= -2/3##. The slope of (A) is ##-2/3##.
 
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micromass said:
Given a conic section
[tex]Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0[/tex]
the asymptotes can be calculated by a little trick. Basically, the slope of the asymptote is ##s##, where ##s## is the solution to ##A + Bs + Cs^2=0##.

In your case, this corresponds to the solution of ##4-9s^2=0##. So we get ##s = 2/3## or ##s= -2/3##. The slope of (A) is ##-2/3##.

Ah, the trick with the homogeneous coordinates and equations ;)
 
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micromass said:
Given a conic section
[tex]Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0[/tex]
the asymptotes can be calculated by a little trick. Basically, the slope of the asymptote is ##s##, where ##s## is the solution to ##A + Bs + Cs^2=0##.

In your case, this corresponds to the solution of ##4-9s^2=0##. So we get ##s = 2/3## or ##s= -2/3##. The slope of (A) is ##-2/3##.
Thanks! I'll use this trick in future.
 
Poznerrr said:
Thanks! I'll use this trick in future.

You shouldn't unless you can prove the trick actually works.
 
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Poznerrr,
For the proof, divide the initial conic section by x2. And find the limit if x->infinity. Thus, your get the equation from post #5, where s = y/x, that is the slope.
 
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Poznerrr said:
Thanks! I'll use this trick in future.

Also: in the future do not post images of your work, as most people on this Forum will not read them and will not be willing to help you. Just type out your work.
 

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