Hyperbolic triangles proof help?

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The discussion revolves around a proof in hyperbolic geometry concerning the angles θ and ∅ formed at points M and N, which are the midpoints of segments AB and AC, respectively. Participants are tasked with determining the relationship between these angles based on the properties of hyperbolic triangles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin the proof and consider the role of congruent triangles. There is mention of the internal angle sum being less than 180 degrees and the concept of triangle defect. Some participants question how the midpoints M and N can be utilized in their reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their initial thoughts and attempts to connect the properties of hyperbolic triangles to the problem at hand. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption that the internal angle sum of a triangle is less than 180 degrees in hyperbolic geometry, as well as the AAA congruence criterion. The lack of a figure in the initial posts raises questions about the visual context necessary for the proof.

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Homework Statement



Prove in hyperbolic geometry: In the accompanying figure M and N are the respective (hyperbolic) midpoints of AB and AC and θ and ∅ are the indicated angle measures. Determine, with proof, which of the following is true:
(1): θ=∅ (2): θ<∅ (3): θ>∅ ( stands for phi)


Homework Equations


I have attached a picture of the figure too. Since I am in hyperbolic geometry I get to assume that the internal angle sum of a triangle <180 degrees and AAA congruence for triangles.


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where to get started. It looks simple but I am thinking that I need to get congruent triangles in there somehow but I don't know how to. If you can give me a hint that be great.
 

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bonfire09 said:

Homework Statement



Prove in hyperbolic geometry: In the accompanying figure M and N are the respective (hyperbolic) midpoints of AB and AC and θ and ∅ are the indicated angle measures. Determine, with proof, which of the following is true:
(1): θ=∅ (2): θ<∅ (3): θ>∅


Homework Equations


I have attached a picture of the figure too. Since I am in hyperbolic geometry I get to assume that the internal angle sum of a triangle <180 degrees and AAA congruence for triangles.


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where to get started. It looks simple but I am thinking that I need to get congruent triangles in there somehow but I don't know how to. If you can give me a hint that be great.
Where's the figure?
 
I've attached it.
 
bonfire09 said:
I've attached it.
OK I see it now.

I guess that it can take a while to appear initially.
 
The only things that I can really with is triangle defect and the the internal angle sum of triangles are less than 180 degrees. In case of quad's they are less that 360. But I am also given that M and N are midpoints and I know somehow they allow me to do something but not quite sure.
 

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