Hypothetical question concerning vectors of steering?

In summary, in a hypothetical scenario where a car is properly aligned and the crown of the road has no effect, the steering wheel is on the left and the driver weighs 200lbs, if vectors and G forces are drawn for a swerving incident, the left side of the car would experience more wear due to slightly more downforce at the contact patches. The load factors at the instant of initiation would be the same as going straight, and the distribution of downforce depends on weight distribution and suspension stiffness. This may change on a rear wheel drive car depending on weight distribution. In a discussion in an auto shop, it was found that the right tire at the relatively "stiffest" end of the car would experience the most load,
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xzh
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Hypothetically:
-car is aligned properly
-crown has nothing to do with anything
-the steering wheel is on the Left and you weight generously 200lbs.

If you were to draw vectors and include G forces and everything you can think of for this incidence, what would you conclude?

You are going on a straight path, you see an animal and you quickly swerve to the left, which side would you experience the most wear on?

At the instant of the initiation of the swerve, where is the load L or R?

Cut the car in half.
Left vs. Right side of car experiences most wear?
Would this change on a Rear wheel drive car?

We had this discussion in an auto shop and I am not delighted to hear something that was so conter-intuitive that I'd just had to ask!
 
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xzh said:
If you were to draw vectors and include G forces and everything you can think of for this incidence, what would you conclude?
Left side of car has a bit more downforce at the contact patches than right side.

xzh said:
You quickly swerve to the left, which side would you experience the most wear on? At the instant of the initiation of the swerve, where is the load L or R? Would this change on a rear wheel drive car?
Do you mean tire wear? I'm not sure how wear relates to load factors (downforce, side load), squirming at the contact patch, slippage at the contact patch, ...

A the instant of of initiation of the swerve, the load factors are the same as going straight. It takes some small, finite amount of time before the side loads become non-zero.

The L / R distribution of the downforce depends on front / rear weight distribution and stiffness of the suspension. If the front / rear weight distribution is near 50% / 50%, then the right tire at the relatively "stiffest" end gets the most load, and the left tire at the relatively "stiffest" end gets the least load.
 
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I figured it out now thanks for clarification =)
 

1. What are vectors of steering?

Vectors of steering refer to the forces or factors that influence decision-making and behavior in a certain direction. These can include internal factors such as personal beliefs and values, as well as external factors such as social norms and peer pressure.

2. How do vectors of steering impact decision-making?

Vectors of steering can significantly impact decision-making by guiding individuals towards certain choices and actions. They can also limit the range of options available and influence the intensity of decisions made.

3. Can vectors of steering be changed or manipulated?

Yes, vectors of steering can be changed or manipulated through various means such as education, persuasion, and changing external circumstances. However, the extent to which they can be altered depends on the individual and the specific situation.

4. Are vectors of steering always conscious and intentional?

No, vectors of steering can be both conscious and intentional, as well as unconscious and unintentional. Some factors, such as personal beliefs and values, may be more consciously considered, while others, such as social norms, may operate on a subconscious level.

5. How do vectors of steering differ from biases?

Vectors of steering and biases are closely related, but differ in that vectors of steering refer to the forces that influence decision-making, while biases refer to the tendencies or inclinations towards certain choices and actions. Biases can be seen as a specific type of vector of steering that is influenced by personal experiences and perceptions.

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