Hysteresis in helical coils springs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the presence of hysteresis in helical coil springs, particularly in the context of plotting deformation versus load curves. Participants explore whether different loading and unloading methods yield collinear lines and seek to understand the reasons behind any observed hysteresis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if helical springs exhibit hysteresis and whether loading and unloading methods will produce collinear lines.
  • Another participant asserts that hysteresis is present in materials that undergo deformation, suggesting a broad principle that "where there is deformation, hysteresis is there."
  • A participant seeks clarification on the reasons behind hysteresis in helical springs.
  • One participant suggests that non-collinearity in the deformation versus load curve may arise from strain hardening or irreversibility effects, while theoretically, they claim the lines should be collinear.
  • Another participant states that the total energy absorbed during loading should equal the total energy released during unloading in a theoretical context.
  • However, a later reply challenges this by stating that in practice, the relationship will not hold true.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether hysteresis occurs in helical springs and whether the loading and unloading curves will be collinear. There is no consensus on the reasons for hysteresis or the implications of strain hardening and irreversibility effects.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about theoretical versus practical behavior of helical springs and does not resolve the complexities of energy absorption and release during loading and unloading.

k.udhay
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Hi,

Do helical springs have hysteresis. Say I do an exercise of plotting deformation Vs load curve of a helical spring, one way will be starting from load zero and increasing till the spring achieves solid length. The other way will be loading the spring till solid length and measuring deformation during releasing load progressively. Will both the methods give collinear lines?

If there is a hysteresis (of helical springs in specific), why does it occur?

Thanks.
 
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Hysteresis occurs in ferromagnetic materials and ferroelectric materials, as well as in the deformation of some materials (such as rubber bands and shape-memory alloys) in response to a varying force.
so in all we can say that
"where there is deformation hysteresis is there"
 
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Thanks Swap.. But why exactly does this occur?
 
Ok
 
k.udhy first of all
as u said u practically performed this
in that case u might not get co-llinear lines because of strain hardening effect or because of irreversibility effect

but theorotically it will be co-linear
 
whatever total total energy absorbe durring loading(Resilience)=total energy release durring unloading
FOR THEROTICALLY
 
BUT ACTUALLY IT WILL NOT LIKE THAT
 
It's not instant messaging.

Please use full sentences and don't post a message until you have completed it. You Don't have to click post where you would pause when speaking.
 

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