I am a 9th grade student and having problems solving this question

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem posed by a 9th grade student regarding the calculation of the remainder when the sum of the fifth powers of the first 100 integers is divided by 4. The conversation includes attempts to solve the problem, explanations of modular arithmetic, and inquiries about the nature of mod functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the modular values for the first four integers raised to the fifth power, concluding that their sum is 0 mod 4.
  • Another participant suggests that the remainder of the entire sum when divided by 4 will be one of the values 0, 1, 2, or 3, emphasizing that the quotient is not necessary for solving the problem.
  • There is a mention of a property of modular equations, indicating that certain powers are congruent under modulo 4, such as 1^5 being congruent to 5^5 mod 4.
  • A request for clarification on mod functions and equations is made, indicating a need for further understanding of the topic.
  • A participant provides a basic explanation of mod functions, stating that it refers to the remainder when one number is divided by another.
  • A mathematical formula for the sum of the fifth powers is presented, although its relevance to the original problem is not explicitly discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding modular arithmetic, with some agreeing on the calculations for the first four integers but not reaching a consensus on the overall sum or its implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete evaluation of the sum.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the properties of modular arithmetic and how they apply to the problem, indicating that further clarification may be necessary. The mathematical steps presented may depend on specific interpretations of modular properties.

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I am a 9th grade student and having problems solving this question :

What is the remainder when 1^5 + 2^5 + 3^5 + 4^5 + 5^5 + 6^5 ... 100^5 is divided by 4
 
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We have;

[itex]1^{5}[/itex] = 1 mod 4
[itex]2^{5}[/itex] = 0 mod 4
[itex]3^{5}[/itex] = 81 * 3 = 3 mod 4
[itex]4^{5}[/itex] = 0 mod 4

and for this partial sum we get 1+0+3+0 = 0 mod 4

Now: what happens with [itex]5^{5}[/itex],[itex]6^{5}[/itex],[itex]7^{5}[/itex],[itex]8^{5}[/itex] compared with [itex]1^{5}[/itex],[itex]2^{5}[/itex],[itex]3^{5}[/itex],[itex]4^{5}[/itex] ?

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physics kiddy said:
I am a 9th grade student and having problems solving this question :
What is the remainder when 1^5 + 2^5 + 3^5 + 4^5 + 5^5 + 6^5 ... 100^5 is divided by 4

I think from your title, you somehow feel that the quotient is material to this problem, but all that is needed is what would be the remainder of the sum of all those powers when divided by 4. Hint, it will be either 0,1,2 or 3. Rama Wolf show that 1^5 + 2^5 + 3^5 +4^5 will give a remainder of zero when divided by 4, i.e. the sum equals zero mod 4.

An important fact about mod equations may be useful to consider here. (a+m)*(b+m) = a*b + (a+b)*m + m^2 = = a*b mod m since the remainder of m^2 + (a+b)*m = 0 when divided by m. Therefore 1^5 == 5^5 mod 4, etc.
 
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Please explain what is mod functions and equations. That's urgent ...
 


Hi kiddy. Since i think we probably have to be a little tactful in explaining since u a just a ninth grader. Mod function is basically is giving you the remainder. When we say 5==1 mod 4 it means 5 has a remainder of 1 when divided by 4
 


Thank you all very very much ...
 


[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n}i^5= \frac{2 n^6+6 n^5+5 n^4-n^2}{12}=\frac{n^2(n+1)(2n^2+2n-1)}{12}=\frac{(((2n+6)n+5)n^2-1)n^2}{12}[/tex]
 

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