I am having a hard time defining theta in Torque=rFsin(theta)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the angle theta in the torque equation Torque = rFsin(theta), specifically in the context of a pulley system. Participants are exploring the definition and implications of theta in relation to the forces acting on the pulley.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify what theta represents, with some suggesting it is the angle between the position vector and the force vector. Others are questioning the implications of the angle in relation to the tangential nature of the forces on the pulley.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationship between the angle theta and the forces acting on the pulley. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the angle's measurement, particularly whether it can be consistently defined as 90 degrees in this context.

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Some participants express confusion about the definitions and concepts related to tangential forces and the geometry of the pulley system, indicating a need for further clarification on these topics.

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Can someone dummify what theta represents in Torque = rFsin(theta)?

if my understanding of theta is correct for this problem theta would be 53 degrees.
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dadiezel07 said:
Can someone dummify what theta represents in Torque = rFsin(theta)?
In general, θ would be the angle between the position vector (r), which describes the point of application with respect to some axis, and the force vector (F).
if my understanding of theta is correct for this problem theta would be 53 degrees.
No. Assuming you are trying to express the torque on the pulley, realize that the tensions are tangential to the pulley.
 
Doc Al said:
No. Assuming you are trying to express the torque on the pulley, realize that the tensions are tangential to the pulley.

When you say they are tangential to the pulley, can you explain a little furthur.

Thats another subject I can't quite wrap my head around is the definition on tangential, is it the word to describe "linear" equations?

I have been continuing the subject without complete understanding of everything this is my attempt at understanding everything because my book does a horrible job.
 
dadiezel07 said:
When you say they are tangential to the pulley, can you explain a little furthur.
I mean that the line of action of the tension force (which is the line that the ropes make) is tangential to the circle that is the pulley. Which means that if you draw a radius to the point of application of the force, the force would be at 90° to the radius.
 
so in the case of the pulley will the theta angle always be 90 degrees?
 
dadiezel07 said:
so in the case of the pulley will the theta angle always be 90 degrees?
Yes.
 

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