I finding the limits of trig functions

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The discussion revolves around finding limits of trigonometric functions, specifically evaluating limits as variables approach zero. The original poster presents two limits involving cosine and sine functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for evaluating the limits, including the use of L'Hôpital's rule and power series expansion. There are questions about the application of the quotient rule in the context of limits.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing suggestions and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of known limits and rearranging expressions, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of homework rules and the appropriateness of certain methods, such as L'Hôpital's rule, based on the original poster's educational context.

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Homework Statement


lim cos(beta sign)-1/sin(beta)
Beta-0

2. lim sin^2 3t/t^2
t-0

for the first one i tried to use the quotient formula to get the derivative, but still I am not sure i did it correctly and for the second problem, i have no idea what to do

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in a way this might be cheating (depending on how your teacher wants you to solve the problem), but have u tried l'hopital's rule?
 
for the second one you can try this: expand Sin^2 (3t) as a power series... then you will find that the first term is proportional to t^2 and after that the answer is obvious
 
Oomair said:

Homework Statement


lim cos(beta sign)-1/sin(beta)
Beta-0
...
for the first one i tried to use the quotient formula to get the derivative, but still I am not sure i did it correctly

What do you mean by Quotient Formula? =.="
Quotient Formula is used for taking the derivative of an expression, but, in this problem, you are asked to find the limit of an expression.

Can you show us what you did?

2. lim sin^2 3t/t^2
t-0

Do you know this limit:
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} = 1[/tex]?

When seeing an expression with sin(x) over x, or something like that, you should think about using this well-known limit right away. So, you can re-arrange the expression a bit, like this:

[tex]\lim_{t \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin ^ 2 (3t)}{t ^ 2} = \lim_{t \rightarrow 0} \frac{9 \sin ^ 2 (3t)}{(3t) ^ 2} = ...[/tex]

Can you go from here? :)
 
^yep that's what i was looking for, but why did u multiply a 9 instead of a 3?
 
Because in the denominator, he also multiplied with 9, but wrote it as 9 = 3^2, the denominator must be exactly the same as the argument of the sinus.
 

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