I heard from that Stocks, the famous mathematician who I appreciate

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The discussion centers around the contributions of George Gabriel Stokes, particularly in relation to his theories and their connection to special relativity and fluid dynamics. Participants explore the historical context and implications of Stokes' work, including his ideas about ether and molecular structures.

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  • One participant mentions Stokes' theory related to the birth of special relativity, seeking clarification on its specifics.
  • Another participant questions the identity of "Stocks," suggesting a possible misspelling and confusion with other figures like Gabriel Stokes or George Fitzgerald.
  • There is a reference to Stokes' theorem, with a participant recalling its relevance to fluid dynamics and its historical context.
  • One participant corrects their earlier mistake, confirming that they meant George Gabriel Stokes and noting his contributions to both fluid dynamics and mathematics.
  • Another participant discusses Stokes' suggestion of molecules as "knotted vortices in the ether," linking it to early ideas in string theory and noting its lack of success in developing a physical theory.
  • One participant emphasizes the significance of fluid dynamics in various fields, suggesting its broad impact.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific contributions of Stokes to relativity and whether his theories are correctly understood. There is no consensus on the connection between Stokes' work and special relativity, and multiple interpretations of his theories are presented.

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Some participants reference historical figures and concepts without fully resolving the relationships between them, indicating a need for clarity on definitions and the context of Stokes' theories.

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I heard from that Stocks,the famous mathematician who I appreciate very much,made a theory to explain the experiments which lead to the birth of special relativity.Anyone who knows it please tell me.
 
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The famous mathematician?

Hi, enricfemi,

I for one have no idea whom you might mean.

Are you certain that you are spelling the name correctly? Do recall this person's first name? Are you sure he/she was a mathematician?
 
There's a Stokes Theorem. I can't remember what that's about, something in fluid dynamics maybe (i.e. like the Navier-Stokes Equation). Not sure what it has to do with relativity, although especially in the past, great minds made contributions to a variety of areas.
 
Wallace said:
There's a Stokes Theorem. I can't remember what that's about, something in fluid dynamics maybe (i.e. like the Navier-Stokes Equation). Not sure what it has to do with relativity, although especially in the past, great minds made contributions to a variety of areas.

Hmm... enricfemi, could you possibly have confused the mathematician Gabriel Stokes with the physicist George Fitzgerald? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_FitzGerald (read at your own risk).

Wallace, Stoke's theorem is a fundamental theorem, even the fundamental theorem of the theory of integration on manifolds. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stokes'_theorem&diff=89307558&oldid=89285234
Unfortunately, the theorem was apparently first found by Kelvin and communicated by letter to Stokes. Some years later, Stokes was writing the famous Tripos exam and set Kelvin's little theorem as one of the problems. An interesting trivia item: Maxwell was one of the students who sat for that particular edition of this exam!
 
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So sorry,it is my fault to spell a wrong name.
yes ,He is George Gabriel Stokes,who contributed to both fluid dynamics and mathematics.
And he also has a theory about ether,though it was considered as a mistake.
who know why?
 
Stokes on "ether"?

Could you possibly be referring to the suggestion of Kelvin and Stokes that molecules might be "knotted vortices in the ether" which are built up by combining simpler vortices (atoms)? With topological properties of a knot corresponding to physical properties of a molecule? (Sometimes this idea is touted as a very early progenitor of string theory, although the relationship is not really very close, as far as I can tell.)

If so, I don't think this had much to do with relativity, although the motivation may have included some early ideas about what we now call magnetohydrodynamics. As far as I know, despite much mathematical effort on the part of Stokes, this undeniably appealing suggestion never led to a true physical theory. Stokes did more or less invent what we know call the "theory of knots and links", while trying to work toward a theory of molecules as knotted vorticies. In particular, as far as I know, Stokes never made much progress in relating topological properties of knots to physical properties of molecules.

This notion fell into disfavor when new ideas appeared which eventually led to a real theory which readily yielded striking and verifiable predictions (e.g., the Bohr atom).
 
Stokes theory has really shaken the tree in physics. Fluid dynamics are a serious player in everything from shower drains to super clusters.
 

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