I really appreciate the help.Finding Force in Nonuniform Circular Motion

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force acting on a body moving in nonuniform circular motion, where the velocity changes linearly from v to 2v during one complete revolution. The correct tangential acceleration is derived as a constant, specifically a_{tan} = 3v^2/(4πR), and the radial acceleration is expressed as a_{R} = 16π^2R^2/9t^2. The overall acceleration is calculated using the Pythagorean theorem, leading to the force equation |F| = (1/4πRT^2)√(9v^4T^4 + 16π^4R^2). The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding linear functions and their derivatives in solving the problem.

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  • #31
voko said:
We are back at the very beginning. The problem says that the magnitude of velocity is a linear function of time. Let's denote this f(t) - not v because v is used as a constant specification of initial velocity, so f(0) = v. Tangential acceleration is the time derivative of velocity, i.e., f'(t). What is it?

s = /
u = v
v = 2v
a = ?
t = t

v = u + at
v = at
a = v/t

f'(t) = v/ t
1/v dv = 1/t dt
ln(v) = ln(t) + C
t = 0 when v = 0
I get infinite C?
 
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  • #32
In #19 and #25 you wrote what f(t) and f'(t) are. You don't need to solve any differential equations. You just need to determine the constants involved, that's all there is to it.
 
  • #33
voko said:
In #19 and #25 you wrote what f(t) and f'(t) are. You don't need to solve any differential equations. You just need to determine the constants involved, that's all there is to it.

I don't know what you mean

What about the period of one rotation? You said it had to be included somewhere
 
  • #34
There is no period. The motion is not uniform.

I do not think this is going in the right direction. I do not feel that you understand the significance of linearity of velocity. I will make one final attempt.

The magnitude of the velocity is a linear function of time. That means ## v(t) = a_{\tau}t + v_0 ##. The derivative is ## v'(t) = a_{\tau} ##. ## a_{\tau} ## is tangential acceleration, ## v_0 ## is the initial velocity, which is denoted just as ## v ## in the problem, which is very unfortunate because it got you badly confused earlier. You have already deduced ## a_{\tau} ## in terms of ## R ## and ## v_0 ## (again, it was confusingly denoted simply as ##v ##). With that, you can easily restore ## v(t) ## and thus obtain ## a_n##, the normal (or radial) acceleration. Then it is trivial to get the magnitude of net acceleration and force.
 
  • #35
voko said:
There is no period. The motion is not uniform.

I do not think this is going in the right direction. I do not feel that you understand the significance of linearity of velocity. I will make one final attempt.

The magnitude of the velocity is a linear function of time. That means ## v(t) = a_{\tau}t + v_0 ##. The derivative is ## v'(t) = a_{\tau} ##. ## a_{\tau} ## is tangential acceleration, ## v_0 ## is the initial velocity, which is denoted just as ## v ## in the problem, which is very unfortunate because it got you badly confused earlier. You have already deduced ## a_{\tau} ## in terms of ## R ## and ## v_0 ## (again, it was confusingly denoted simply as ##v ##). With that, you can easily restore ## v(t) ## and thus obtain ## a_n##, the normal (or radial) acceleration. Then it is trivial to get the magnitude of net acceleration and force.

Thank you for your patience. So the radial accn would be aR = v(t)^2 / R

v(t) being what was found earlier from ## v(t) = a_{\tan}t + v_0 ##
 

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