I really appreciate the help.Finding Force in Nonuniform Circular Motion

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The problem involves a body of mass m moving in a nonuniform circular motion, where its velocity changes linearly from v to 2v during one complete rotation. The objective is to find the force acting on the body as a function of time.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of tangential and radial accelerations, with some questioning the correctness of the initial assumptions and equations used. There is exploration of how to express these accelerations as functions of time, and participants consider the implications of linear changes in velocity.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between tangential and radial accelerations, with some participants providing guidance on the implications of linear velocity changes. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being examined, particularly regarding the constancy of tangential acceleration.

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Participants note that the motion is not periodic, which affects the use of certain equations. There is also a focus on understanding the definition of linear functions and their derivatives in the context of the problem.

  • #31
voko said:
We are back at the very beginning. The problem says that the magnitude of velocity is a linear function of time. Let's denote this f(t) - not v because v is used as a constant specification of initial velocity, so f(0) = v. Tangential acceleration is the time derivative of velocity, i.e., f'(t). What is it?

s = /
u = v
v = 2v
a = ?
t = t

v = u + at
v = at
a = v/t

f'(t) = v/ t
1/v dv = 1/t dt
ln(v) = ln(t) + C
t = 0 when v = 0
I get infinite C?
 
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  • #32
In #19 and #25 you wrote what f(t) and f'(t) are. You don't need to solve any differential equations. You just need to determine the constants involved, that's all there is to it.
 
  • #33
voko said:
In #19 and #25 you wrote what f(t) and f'(t) are. You don't need to solve any differential equations. You just need to determine the constants involved, that's all there is to it.

I don't know what you mean

What about the period of one rotation? You said it had to be included somewhere
 
  • #34
There is no period. The motion is not uniform.

I do not think this is going in the right direction. I do not feel that you understand the significance of linearity of velocity. I will make one final attempt.

The magnitude of the velocity is a linear function of time. That means ## v(t) = a_{\tau}t + v_0 ##. The derivative is ## v'(t) = a_{\tau} ##. ## a_{\tau} ## is tangential acceleration, ## v_0 ## is the initial velocity, which is denoted just as ## v ## in the problem, which is very unfortunate because it got you badly confused earlier. You have already deduced ## a_{\tau} ## in terms of ## R ## and ## v_0 ## (again, it was confusingly denoted simply as ##v ##). With that, you can easily restore ## v(t) ## and thus obtain ## a_n##, the normal (or radial) acceleration. Then it is trivial to get the magnitude of net acceleration and force.
 
  • #35
voko said:
There is no period. The motion is not uniform.

I do not think this is going in the right direction. I do not feel that you understand the significance of linearity of velocity. I will make one final attempt.

The magnitude of the velocity is a linear function of time. That means ## v(t) = a_{\tau}t + v_0 ##. The derivative is ## v'(t) = a_{\tau} ##. ## a_{\tau} ## is tangential acceleration, ## v_0 ## is the initial velocity, which is denoted just as ## v ## in the problem, which is very unfortunate because it got you badly confused earlier. You have already deduced ## a_{\tau} ## in terms of ## R ## and ## v_0 ## (again, it was confusingly denoted simply as ##v ##). With that, you can easily restore ## v(t) ## and thus obtain ## a_n##, the normal (or radial) acceleration. Then it is trivial to get the magnitude of net acceleration and force.

Thank you for your patience. So the radial accn would be aR = v(t)^2 / R

v(t) being what was found earlier from ## v(t) = a_{\tan}t + v_0 ##
 

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