I with a distance problem involving constant acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a train accelerating at a constant rate over a specified time period. The original poster presents multiple parts of the problem, including determining acceleration and calculating distances traveled during two segments of the acceleration period.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration using the change in velocity over time and question the correct application of distance formulas for different time intervals. There is also confusion regarding the initial conditions for the second segment of distance calculation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the appropriate equations for constant acceleration and clarified the need to maintain initial conditions for each segment of the problem. Multiple interpretations of how to apply the distance formula are being explored, particularly concerning the initial position for the second time interval.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct conversion of units and the implications of using calculated distances as initial positions in subsequent calculations. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as posed in the homework statement.

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Homework Statement


A train starts at a railway station and accelerates, at a constant rate, for 7 seconds, to a velocity of 115 kilometers per hour east. Set t = 0 at the instant the train starts to accelerate.

a) determine the acceleration of the train (in km/hr/sec.) at t = 3.5 sec.
b) determine the distance, in meters, the train travels during the first 3.5 seconds of the acceleration period.
c) determine the distance, in meters, the train travels during the second 3.5 seconds of the acceleration period.


Homework Equations


To find the acceleration at t = 3.5 sec., I write: accel. = change in veloc. divided by change in time = 115 km/hr. - 0 km/hr.
_____________________ = 115 km/hr.
7 sec. - 0 s __________ = 16.4 km/hr/sec. constant
7 sec.

Then, to determine distance traveled in the first 3.5 seconds, i use the equation:
x = initial x + initial veloc. X time + 1/2 accel. X time squared

x = 0m + 0m/squ X 3.5 sec. + 1/2 X 4.5 m/sec squared X (3.5 sec.) squared

4.5 m is from converting the 16.4 km/hr/sec to meters.

I think I use the same equation to find the distance the train travels in the second 3.5 seconds.

Im confused about which numbers to use in the equation.














The Attempt at a Solution



 
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oops i messed up on the top part there. i meant to write:
acceler. = 115 km/hr/sec. divided by 7 seconds = 16.4 km/hr/sec. constant
 
1 a.
Since this is constant acceleration, just use
(Vf - Vo)/(7)

1 b. Use equation:
x = vt + 1/2at^2
x = (0)(3.5) + 0.5(a)(3.5)^2

1 c. Find velocity at 3.5 seconds use acceleration, Vo = 0, and t = 3.5
and equation: vf = vo + at.
And then use that as initial velocity, and repeat 1b.
 
thanks for your help :)
 
oh, i have one more quick question-do i need to use the distance calculated from the first 3.5 sec, and plug that into the initial position of the equation for the second 3 seconds? hope that's clear enough.
 
second *3.5 seconds
 
i got 15.75 m for initial velocity and plugged that into x = x initial + veloc. initial X 3.5s X 1/2 (4.5 m/s/s) (3.5)^2
i got 27. 5 meters for the distance of the first 3.5 seconds, but when i try to calculate for the second 3.5 seconds, it seems way too much 82.6 m-maybe because i shoulnt plug in 27.5m for the inital position the second time. it remains at 0? i just don't know.
 
yes don't sub, the question asks what is the distance from 3.5s.
So initial = 0.
 
so, in that case, i think this would be right:
the distance for the first 3.5 seconds would be
x = x initial + (v initial X 3.5 s) + 1/2 a (t)^2
= 0 m + (0 m/s X 3.5s) + 1/2 (4.5m/s/s)(3.5s)^2 = 27.5 m

the distance for the second 3.5 seconds is:

x = x initial + (v initial X 3.5 s) + 1/2 a (t)^2
= 0m + (4.5m/s/s X 3.5 s) + 1/2 X 4.5 m/s/s X (3.5s)^2
= 43.31 m
 

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