Ideal Gas Carnot engine refrigeration

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between heat absorbed and rejected by reservoirs in the context of a Carnot engine refrigeration cycle. Participants are exploring the implications of temperature on heat transfer and the work done by a heat pump.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between heat transfer and temperature, specifically questioning the correctness of derived equations related to heat absorbed by the hot reservoir.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about their solutions, while others affirm the correctness of the equations presented. There is mention of seeking further clarification through textbooks on the coefficient of performance (COP), indicating a productive direction for understanding.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is a focus on ensuring that the derived equations align with the principles of thermodynamics as applied to Carnot cycles.

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Homework Statement


What is the relationship between the heat absorbed and rejected by the reservoirs and their temperature. If a heat pump is used to transfer heat what is the rate at which heat is added to the hot reservoir in terms of the temperatures of the reservoir and the work done by the pump?


Homework Equations



Answer to the first part is [tex]\frac{Q_{h}}{Q_{c}}=\frac{\theta_{h}}{\theta_{c}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I got a solution of [tex]Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}}[/tex] however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way. Not even sure I have answered the question. Without a correct answer I can not do the rest of the question.
 
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supermanii said:
I got a solution of [tex]Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}}[/tex] however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way. Not even sure I have answered the question. Without a correct answer I can not do the rest of the question.
Looks fine to me. :approve: (I'm assuming you are using the symbol θ to represent temperature.)

But if you'd like a more formal discussion on the subject, look in your textbook or coursework for coefficient of performance (COP). It will explain the concept probably better than what I can do here. :smile:
 
supermanii said:
I got a solution of [tex]Q_{h}=\frac{W\theta_{h}}{\theta_{h}-\theta_{c}}[/tex] however I am very unsure of this and think I went about it the wrong way.
Your answer is correct. Here's why: Since the system returns to its initial state after a complete cycle, there is no change internal energy so [itex]\Delta Q = |Q_h|-|Q_c| = <br /> \Delta U + W = 0 + W = W[/itex].

If you are using a Carnot heat pump, Qh/Qc = Th/Tc. So Qh/W = Qh/(|Qh|-|Qc|) = Th/(Th-Tc)

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