Ideal Projectile Motion , horizontal and vertical components?

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The problem involves ideal projectile motion, where a ball is thrown towards a wall at a specific speed and angle. Participants are tasked with determining the height at which the ball strikes the wall and the horizontal and vertical components of its velocity upon impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of time to reach the wall and the application of kinematic equations to find the height at impact. There are attempts to clarify the use of the correct formulas and the importance of squaring the time in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to finding the time and height, while others are exploring different interpretations of the calculations. There is ongoing discussion about the accuracy of the results and the methods used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in calculations, particularly regarding the vertical component and the height at which the ball hits the wall. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all terms in the equations are correctly applied, including the squaring of time in the height formula.

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Homework Statement



You throw a ball toward a wall with a speed of 32 m/s at an angle of 40.0° above the horizontal directly toward a wall. The wall is 22.0 m from the release point of the ball.


(a) How far above the release point does the ball hit the wall?


(b) What are the horizontal and vertical components of its velocity as it hits the wall?


The Attempt at a Solution



a).
(Ux)* t = Sx
(32cos40)* t = 22
t = 22/(32cos40)

Sy = (Uy)t+0.5(Ay)t^2
= {(32sin40)*[22/(32cos40)]
+0.5*(-9.8)*[22/(32cos40)]}m
= 12.16m i know this is wrong


b)b).
Vx= 32cos40
= 24.513m/s this is correct


(Vy)^2 = (Uy)^2+2(Ay)*(Sy)
= (32sin40)^2+2*(-9.8)*(-12.16)
Vy = 25.72m/s this is wrong

having problems with vertical component and part A to the question
 
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You correctly found the time it hits the wall: t = d/vx = 22/32 cos40

You used the correct formula for height: h = h0 + vyt - .5gt^2 but you forgot to square t!

AM
 
a).
(Ux)* t = Sx
(32cos40)* t = 22
t = 22/(32cos40)

Sy = (Uy)t+0.5(Ay)t^2
= {(32sin40)*[22/(32cos40)]
+0.5*(-9.8)*[22/(32cos40)]^2}m
-4.9*1.0626
= -5.20679
this still seems to be wrong
 
djester555 said:
a).
(Ux)* t = Sx
(32cos40)* t = 22
t = 22/(32cos40)

Sy = (Uy)t+0.5(Ay)t^2
= {(32sin40)*[22/(32cos40)]
+0.5*(-9.8)*[22/(32cos40)]^2}m
-4.9*1.0626
= -5.20679
this still seems to be wrong
I get 14.5 m:

t = 22/32cos40 = 22/24.5 = .90 sec.

h = vyt - .5gt^2 where vy = 32sin40= 20.5 m/s
= 20.5(.90) - .5 x 9.8(.9^2)
= 18.5 - 4.0
= 14.5 m

AM
 

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