Identifying series and parallel connections

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The discussion focuses on understanding series and parallel connections of capacitors in a circuit. It explains that capacitors connected between the same two points are in parallel, while those connected in a single path are in series. A key point is that parallel components share two nodes, while series components share a single node exclusively. Visual aids, such as coloring nodes, can help identify connections. The conversation also clarifies that components like resistors and capacitors can be in series or parallel, but switches and keys do not count as electronic components in this context. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving circuit problems effectively.
  • #31
gracy said:
Extremely Sorry,if I am irritating you.
But I am unable t understand if this is the case

how is it possible to have more than 2 connections in series?
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Here capacitor,and the two resistance are in series,Right?
 
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gneill said:
Gracy, there is only one series connection in that entire circuit. That is the resistor and battery in the bottom left corner. They share an exclusive connection.

You mean the two connections of yellow node?
If yes that means I understood series connection.
 
  • #34
gracy said:
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Here capacitor,and the two resistance are in series,Right?
Right.
 
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  • #35
gracy said:
You mean the two connections of yellow node?
If yes that means I understood series connection.
Yes.
 
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  • #36
In (1) all 1,2,3 are in series but in (2) only 2 and 3 are in series but 1 and 2 and 1 and 3 are not in series,right?
 
  • #37
gracy said:
In (1) all 1,2,3 are in series but in (2) only 2 and 3 are in series but 1 and 2 and 1 and 3 are not in series,right?
I don't know what you are referring to. What are (1) and (2) ?
 
  • #38
In (1) all 1,2,3 are in series but in (2) only 2 and 3 are in series but 1 and 2 and 1 and 3 are not in series,right?
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  • #39
gneill said:
I don't know what you are referring to. What are (1) and (2) ?
Sorry!I clicked on post reply reply but was intended to click on upload!
 
  • #40
Here no components are in series,Right?
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Sorry if my resistor looks odd!:smile:
 
  • #41
In (1) all three components are in series, yes.

In (2) capacitor 2 and resistor 3 are in series, yes, but they are also in series with the capacitor that you've placed at the bottom. Resistor 1 is not in series with anything, in fact it is "shorted out" by the wiring that connects both of its ends.
 
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  • #42
gneill said:
in fact it is "shorted out" by the wiring that connects both of its ends.
Now what is shorted out!Are not you afraid of opening a brand new topic:smile:

On a serious note I want to ask one thing
How do you decide to bring new wire in I mean switching to yellow from blue,I faced this problem while drawing circuits in post #38 and #40.
 
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  • #43
gracy said:
Here no components are in series,Right?
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Sorry if my resistor looks odd!:smile:
Two resistors are in series, but they are shorted out (bypassed) by the red path joining their outer ends.

Gracy, it should not be necessary to enumerate every possible permutation of connections in order to understand the concept. If there is a single, undivided path for current to follow through a set of components then they are in series. If current has optional paths through other components anywhere along the way then they are not in series.
 
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  • #44
gneill said:
Two resistors are in series,
But I can see only one
that is
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  • #45
gracy said:
Now what is shorted out!Are not you afraid of opening of a brand new topic:smile:
"shorted out" means that there is a low (usually zero) resistance path bypassing a circuit or portion of a circuit. It's a "short path" for the current to follow rather than flow though the circuit.
On a serious note I want to ask one thing
How do you decide to bring new wire in I mean switching to yellow after blue,I faced this problem while drawing circuits in post #38 and #40.
I've explained that a node is isolated, contiguous wiring. If you follow a continuous wire path between two points, then they belong to the same node.

Each colored "island" in the diagram is contiguous wiring.
 
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  • #46
gracy said:
But I can see only one
that is
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a and b are each resistors. That makes two resistors. They are in series.
 
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  • #47
Now I think I have got what is series connection .And the credit goes to definitely you!
I want to understand about parallel connection now!
gneill said:
No, only two components can be connected to any node along a series-connected path.
What happens in parallel connection?
 
  • #48
gracy said:
Now I think I have got what is series connection .And the credit goes to definitely you!
I want to understand about parallel connection now!

What happens in parallel connection?
Things that are in parallel have the same potential difference because they all connect to the same pair of nodes. Is that what you mean?
 
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  • #49
gneill said:
only two components can be connected to any node along a series-connected path.
Is not this applicable for parallel connections?
 
  • #50
gracy said:
Is not this applicable for parallel connections?
No, any number of components can be in parallel and share the same pair of nodes (only two nodes are required for any number of parallel components).

Any number of components can be in series, too, but every pair of them along the series connected path requires an isolated node for their connection.
 
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  • #51
gneill said:
No, any number of components can be in parallel and share the same pair of nodes (only two nodes are required for any number of parallel components).
Here node implies highlighted pink portion "A "or complete blue portion(if we refer image in post #17)
 
  • #52
gracy said:
Here node implies highlighted pink portion "A "or complete blue portion(if we refer image in post #17)
As an example, yes. The blue wire segment is one node. The red wire segment is another node. The highlighted pink portion is just a portion of the blue node, it is not a separate node.

Components that share both of those nodes (red, blue) for their connections are in parallel.
 
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  • #53
By isolated node (that you used in explanation of series connection)means
orange portion "a" here
it appears like a single line
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  • #54
Resistors 1,2,3,4, and 5 are in parallel connection.
 
  • #55
Resistors 1,2,3,4, and 5 are in parallel connection.
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And there are no other components in parallel connection.
Right?
 
  • #56
gneill said:
Gracy, it should not be necessary to enumerate every possible permutation of connections in order to understand the concept.
Sorry but it gives me confident to move further.As I am satisfied that till here my all concepts are clear and I should move forward.
 
  • #57
gracy said:
Resistors 1,2,3,4, and 5 are in parallel connection.
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And there are no other components in parallel connection.
Right?
Correct.
 
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  • #58
please answer my post #53 :smile:
 
  • #59
gracy said:
By isolated node (that you used in explanation of series connection)means
orange portion "a" here
it appears like a single line
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No, it is not isolated. It is a small portion of the larger whole (blue network) which has other connections.
 
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  • #60
gracy said:
On a serious note I want to ask one thing
How do you decide to bring new wire in I mean switching to yellow from blue,I faced this problem while drawing circuits in post #38 and #40.
gneill said:
I've explained that a node is isolated, contiguous wiring. If you follow a continuous wire path between two points, then they belong to the same node.

Each colored "island" in the diagram is contiguous wiring.
Based on my observation of our diagram
A node can not cross any component,right?
I mean it will be wrong if I will replace green wire with yellow wire because by doing thatyellow wire will crss the component(battery)
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