I'm having trouble factoring this rational expression.

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The discussion revolves around factoring a rational expression involving polynomials, specifically the expression \(\frac{(a^3-b^3)/(a^2-2ab+b^2)}{(2a^2+2ab+2b^2)/(9a^2-9b^2)}\). Participants are exploring the simplification of this expression without using complex numbers and are not concerned with the domain.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various attempts at factoring the numerator and denominator, with one participant expressing confusion over the factorization of \(a^2 + ab + b^2\). Others suggest that the original poster should show their work to clarify their reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the factorization process, correcting an error in the original poster's understanding of the factorization of \(a^3 - b^3\). There is an ongoing exploration of the factorization of the remaining terms, with no explicit consensus reached on the final simplification.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster is struggling with the factorization of certain polynomial expressions and has acknowledged a mistake in their earlier work. The discussion includes a focus on ensuring accurate factorization without introducing complex numbers.

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Homework Statement



((a^3-b^3)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))/((2a^2+2ab+2b^2)/(9a^2-9b^2))

Not using complex number system.
Not concerned with domain.
Find the quotient and put it in simplest terms.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Too many to transcribe. Apparently I'm missing a legal operation somewhere. Wolfram|Alpha gives ((9)(a+b))/2, and I am able to reach equivalent answers, but not that simplest one.

Thank you for any help you can provide.
 
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Show some of your work please. The solution is very simple, just factorize everything.

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my work so far

Thank you for your response. Here is my work so far.

((a^3-b^3)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))/((2a^2+2ab+2b^2)/(9a^2-9b^2))

((a^3-b^3)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))*((9a^2-9b^2)/(2a^2+2ab+2b^2))

((a-b)(a^2+2ab+b^2)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))*((9a^2-9b^2)/(2a^2+2ab+2b^2))

((a-b)(a^2+2ab+b^2)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))*((9)(a^2-b^2)/(2a^2+2ab+2b^2))

((a-b)(a^2+2ab+b^2)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))*((9)(a+b)(a-b)/(2a^2+2ab+b^2))

((a-b)(a^2+2ab+b^2)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))*((9)(a+b)(a-b)/2(a^2+ab+b^2))

((a-b)(a+b)(a+b)/(a-b)(a-b))*((9)(a+b)(a-b)/2(a^2+ab+b^2)

Edit: The last step should be (((a-b)(a+b)(a+b))/((a-b)(a-b)))*(((9)(a+b)(a-b))/(2(a^2+ab+b^2))). I missed a few critical parentheses in there. This should translate properly.

The trouble here is with the quantity (a^2+ab+b^2). Does that factor? Did I arrive there in error?

Thank you for any help you can provide.
 
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ECHOSIDE said:

Homework Statement



((a^3-b^3)/(a^2-2ab+b^2))/((2a^2+2ab+2b^2)/(9a^2-9b^2))

I'm going to convert this to latex because it's just a pain to read in text format.

\frac{\left(\frac{a^3-b^3}{a^2-2ab+b^2}\right)}{\left(\frac{2a^2+2ab+2b^2}{9a^2-9b^2}\right)}

And as you've done, converting it into

\frac{a^3-b^3}{a^2-2ab+b^2}\cdot \frac{9a^2-9b^2}{2a^2+2ab+2b^2}

Now, your first mistake was an error in factorizing

a^3-b^3\neq (a-b)(a^2+2ab+b^2) = (a-b)(a+b)^2

It's actually

a^3-b^3=(a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)

And so the second factor can't be factorized further. This should help you along because the same factor can be found in the denominator of the second fraction.
 
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This was a huge help. It appears to be accurate. Thank you for taking the time to correct my elementary mistake.
 

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