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The problem involves calculating the error in the distance between Earth and the moon based on the time it takes for a laser beam to make a round trip. The round-trip time can be measured with a specific accuracy, and the task is to determine how this accuracy translates to an error in distance measurement.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between time measurement and distance, questioning how the round-trip time affects the calculated distance to the moon. There is an exploration of the implications of measuring time with a certain precision and how that relates to the distance light travels in that time.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing insights into the nature of the round-trip measurement and its impact on the distance calculation. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the error in distance based on the round-trip time, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are considering the implications of measuring time with a precision of 0.17 nanoseconds and how this affects the calculated distance. The distinction between one-way and round-trip measurements is also being discussed.

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Homework Statement


The distance between Earth and the moon can be determined from the time it takes for a laser beam to travel from Earth to a reflector on the moon and back. If the round-trip time can be measured to an accuracy of 0.17 of a nanosecond (1 ns = 10-9 s), what is the corresponding error in the earth-moon distance?


Homework Equations


t=v/d


The Attempt at a Solution


I set v=3x10^8 m/s, d=405x10^6 m, which gave me 1.35 seconds, which should be the time for light to travel to the moon. then i converted 1.35 seconds to ns, which is 1.35e9. to get the percent error, i did: 0.17ns/1.35e9ns=1.25x10^-10%. then i multiplied that by 405 x 10^6, and i got an error in distance of .00506, but this was not right. what am i doing wrong?
 
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kdrobey said:

Homework Statement


The distance between Earth and the moon can be determined from the time it takes for a laser beam to travel from Earth to a reflector on the moon and back. If the round-trip time can be measured to an accuracy of 0.17 of a nanosecond (1 ns = 10-9 s), what is the corresponding error in the earth-moon distance?


Homework Equations


t=v/d


The Attempt at a Solution


I set v=3x10^8 m/s, d=405x10^6 m, which gave me 1.35 seconds, which should be the time for light to travel to the moon. then i converted 1.35 seconds to ns, which is 1.35e9. to get the percent error, i did: 0.17ns/1.35e9ns=1.25x10^-10%. then i multiplied that by 405 x 10^6, and i got an error in distance of .00506, but this was not right. what am i doing wrong?

They are looking for error distances. If you can't measure time within .17 nanoseconds, maybe ask yourself how far a beam of light could travel in .17 nanoseconds? Wouldn't that be the uncertantity in whatever distance you do measure?
 
The d you are measuring is the round trip time, twice the distance from the Earth to the moon.
 
kdrobey said:
ok, so that would simply be 1.7e-10s x 3e8=.051m?

Sort of.

Since the distance is measured on a round trip, the actual error in the round trip means that the distance to the moon is accurate to within half that distance doesn't it?
 

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