Image Location for a Double Concave Mirror (-20 in Focal Length)

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The discussion revolves around the image location for a double concave lens with a focal length of -20 inches, specifically when the object is placed 30 feet away from the lens.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of the lens formula and the implications of the negative focal length. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of negative image distance and its significance in determining the image's location.

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Some participants have provided insights into the sign conventions used in optics, clarifying the distinction between real and virtual images. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these conventions on the image location.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the sign convention for lenses, particularly in distinguishing between real and virtual images based on the calculated image distance.

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if a double concave mirror with a focal length f = -20 inches is used , where does the image seem to be located , if the image is 30 feet away from the lens

first i converted the 30ft to inches and got 360inches
used formula 1/p + 1/q = 1/f
.0028 + 1/q = -.05
1/q = -.053
q = -18.9 inches

is this correct
 
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lens, not mirror

I assume you mean a double concave lens, not mirror. (A diverging lens.) And I also assume you are asked to find the image distance when the object is 30 feet away. If so, you are correct. But what does the negative sign mean? (The negative sign is correct; I'm just checking that you know where the image is.)
 
not sure really where the image is i didn't think you could have a negitive distance

joe
 
the sign in front tells you where the image is situated.
either in front if it's virtual or at the back if it's real.
so in your case I would say that the image is virtual because the sign is negative.
I think anyway haha :)
 
cowgiljl said:
not sure really where the image is i didn't think you could have a negative distance
Just as I suspected! :eek:

To use the lens equation, you need to know the sign convention:

For converging lenses f is +, for diverging f is -
Object distance is always + (except for virtual objects)
Image distance is + for real images, - for virtual images

If the object is on the left of the lens, a real image (positive image distance) is on the right of the lens, while a virtual image (negative image distance) would be on the left.

In this case the image is virtual: it's on the same side of the lens that the object is on.
 
thanks for that information because I was going to ask the question tuesday
 

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