Image Magnification: Find Height of Image with f=42

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height of an image produced by a lens, given a focal length of 42 cm and an object height of 3.0 cm placed at a distance of 52 cm from the lens. Participants are exploring the relationships between object distance, image distance, and magnification in the context of optics.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to apply the lens formula and magnification equations to find the image height. There are discussions about arithmetic errors in calculations and the implications of negative height values indicating image inversion. Some participants question the conventions of inputting height values in a computerized system.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on recalculating image distance and addressing the nuances of height representation in answers. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the sign of the height and the precision required for the final answer.

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Participants note the importance of significant figures in their calculations and the potential confusion arising from the conventions used in computerized grading systems.

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Homework Statement


f=42[/B]
Find the height of the image produced when a 3.0 cm -high object is placed at distance f+10cm

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The Attempt at a Solution



1/52= 1/3 +1/di

di=49

However, this is wrong for some reason. Thanks
 

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## f=42 ## and doesn't change. ## d_o=f+10=52 ##. Find ## d_i ##. After you do that, there's one more formula that you need. ## \\ ## Incidentally, your arithmetic is incorrect: ## 1/52 \neq 1/3+1/49 ##. When you solve for ## d_i ## on this second try, you need to compute it with proper arithmetic.
 
Charles Link said:
## f=42 ## and doesn't change. ## d_o=f+10=52 ##. Find ## d_i ##. After you do that, there's one more formula that you need. ## \\ ## Incidentally, your arithmetic is incorrect: ## 1/52 \neq 1/3+1/49 ##. When you solve for ## d_i ## on this second try, you need to compute it with proper arithmetic.

So di= 218.4

hi/ho=-di/do

hi/3=218.4/52

hi=-12.6cm

That is still wrong tho. I know it can't be negative just tells us it's inverted. Where did I go wrong?
 
Noreturn said:
So di= 218.4

hi/ho=-di/do

hi/3=218.4/52

hi=-12.6cm

That is still wrong tho. I know it can't be negative just tells us it's inverted. Where did I go wrong?
I agree with your answer. If it is a computer program, try inputting +12.6 cm. Usually these images are specified with positive heights even though they are inverted.
 
So I guess it wanted it input as a negative, (even though height can't be negative?). So when I do -12.6 it says very close try/check rounding. However when I do ((1/42)-(1/52))^-1 I get 4.2 so multiply that by 3 it's 12.6 even.
 
Noreturn said:
So I guess it wanted it input as a negative, (even though height can't be negative?). So when I do -12.6 it says very close try/check rounding. However when I do ((1/42)-(1/52))^-1 I get 4.2 so multiply that by 3 it's 12.6 even.
It's very fussy if it expects an answer of ##h=-13 ## cm because of two sig figs when the exact answer is 12.6. If I were giving it as a problem, I would call the answer ## h=+12.6 ## cm. One problem with computerized answers is that they are incapable of doing any thinking.
 

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