Imaginary Part of Dielectric function

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the imaginary part of the dielectric function and its relationship to optical losses, polarization of electromagnetic radiation, and the mathematical modeling of these phenomena. Participants explore theoretical aspects, calculations, and implications in various contexts, including classical models and wave equations.

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  • Some participants seek clarification on the concept of optical losses and their correlation with the imaginary part of the dielectric function.
  • One participant explains that the imaginary part of the dielectric constant relates to polarization and energy dispersion, suggesting that if the dielectric function is real, the current is out of phase with the driving field.
  • Another participant inquires about the calculation of the imaginary part of the dielectric function, indicating it is similar to the real part.
  • A participant presents a mathematical model involving plane wave solutions in conducting media, detailing the real and imaginary parts of the propagation constant and their implications for optical loss.
  • Questions arise regarding the relevance of electromagnetic wave polarization to the imaginary part of the dielectric function, with one participant proposing a complex permittivity model that includes both conductivity and imaginary components.
  • Some participants note that descriptions in terms of conductivity and complex permittivity are equivalent, questioning the necessity of using both simultaneously.
  • A participant references the Lindhard model of a homogeneous free electron gas as a relevant example for understanding metals in terms of the dielectric function.

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Participants express varying viewpoints on the relationship between conductivity and complex permittivity, with some suggesting they are equivalent while others explore their simultaneous use. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to analyze these concepts together.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the models presented are not fully resolved, particularly concerning the treatment of complex permittivity and its implications for optical losses.

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Can someone please explain the concept of optical losses and its correlation with the imaginary part of the dielectric function in elementary terms. I am confused.
 
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An imaginary part of the dielectric constant can only be due to the polarization which, in frequency space, is P=j(\omega)/(i \omega) (please don't rely on my signs and factors) and therefore, \epsilon=\epsilon_0+ \sigma/i \omega where sigma is the conductivity. If epsilon is real, the current is out of phase by 90 degree with the driving field and will do no work. If epsilon has an imaginary component, the current and the driving E field will be partly in phase so that due to ohms law energy is dispersed.
 
How do you calculate the imaginary part of the dielectric function?
 
Not much differently from the real part. E.g. in a simple classical model of a solid consisting of damped harmonic oscillators, the damping would automatically lead to an imaginary part of polarization.
 
The plane wave solution of the wave equation (from Maxwell's equations) in a homogeneous conducting media is given clearly in Panofsky & Phillips, p 200 [1]. For the plane wave

E(z,t) = Eo*exp(-beta*z)*exp(i*[alpha*z-omega*t]),

the real and imaginary parts of the propagation constant

K = i*(alpha+i*beta) are,

alpha = k*sqrt([sqrt{1+(sigma/[epsilon*omega])^2}+1]/2)

beta = k*sqrt([sqrt{1+(sigma/[epsilon*omega])^2}-1]/2)

where
k = the angular wavenumber = 2*pi/wavelength
epsilon = permittivity
sigma = conductivity
omega =2*pi*f = angular frequency.

Here, alpha is the real part of the angular wavenumber. beta is the attenuation coefficient and attributes to "optical loss" in terms of the Beer-Lambert Law [2].

In perfect dielectric, sigma = 0, and
alpha = k, and
beta = 0,
as expected.



[1] Panofsky & Phillips, Classical Electricity and Magnetism 2nd Ed., Addison-Wesley, 1962.
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attenuation_coefficient
 
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Thank you all for your responses.

How is the polarization of the EM radiation waves relevant to the imaginary part of the dielectric function?
 
cagonder said:
Thank you all for your responses.

How is the polarization of the EM radiation waves relevant to the imaginary part of the dielectric function?
This is a very interesting question. For example, the time-independent wave equation can be expressed as,

E``(z)+(mu*epsilon*omega^2+i*mu*omega*sigma)*E(z)=0.

But what if the permittivity, epsilon, is complex, thus has real and imaginary parts, epsilonr and epsiloni,
epsilon=epsilonr+i*epsiloni,

and and the media is conductive?

If so then,
E``(z)+(mu*epsilonr*omega^2+i*mu*omega*(sigma+ epsiloni *omega))*E(z)=0,

so that the "effective conductivity" becomes,

sigmaeff = sigma+epsiloni*omega, and

alpha = k*sqrt([sqrt{1+(sigma/[epsilonr*omega]+epsiloni/epsilonr)^2}+1]/2)

beta = k*sqrt([sqrt{1+(sigma/[epsilonr*omega]+epsiloni/epsilonr)^2}-1]/2).

I never seen an analysis that includes both conductivity and complex permittivity, but my search has not been exhaustive. This treatment has been nagging me for quite some time.

Any comments?
 
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aabottom said:
I never seen an analysis that includes both conductivity and complex permittivity, but my search has not been exhaustive. This treatment has been nagging me for quite some time.

Any comments?

Descriptions in terms of conductivity vs. complex permittivity are equivalent alternatives, hence it makes not much sense of using both at the same time.
 
cagonder said:
Thank you all for your responses.

How is the polarization of the EM radiation waves relevant to the imaginary part of the dielectric function?

In general, the index of refraction or equivalently the dielectric function n(\omega,k) is a function of both frequency \omega and wavenumber k. In general, it is also a tensor. While the dielectric function is defined for arbitrary combinations of \omega and k, a propagating wave has to fulfill an equation relating n, \omega and k and the polarization. That's the field of crystal optics.
See, e.g. Landau Lifgarbagez, Electrodynamics of Continuous media, or, for the specialist, Agranovich and Ginzburg, Crystal Optics with Spatial Dispersion, and Excitons.
 
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DrDu said:
Descriptions in terms of conductivity vs. complex permittivity are equivalent alternatives, hence it makes not much sense of using both at the same time.
Thank you. That confirms my supposition.
 
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aabottom said:
Thank you. That confirms my supposition.
I like to refer to the Lindhard model of the homogeneous free electron gas as a model of a simple metal. Although the electrons are free, the metal is described completely in terms of epsilon.
 

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